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Necron
msx lover
Berichten: 108
Geplaatst: 15 September 2003, 18:55   
The ASCII corp. haven't ever made any MSX'x. It have just made the standard. So where the profit of this company were from? The Sony, Panasonic, etc. who have actually made the computers had to pay some licence to Ascii for using their MSX standard, or trademark??
GuyveR800
msx guru
Berichten: 3048
Geplaatst: 15 September 2003, 19:28   
Hmm, the MSX trademark was owned by Microsoft until somewhere in the late late 80's...

I'm interested in this question too! Does anyone have an idea?
snout

msx legend
Berichten: 4991
Geplaatst: 15 September 2003, 19:39   
I think the license for the MSX system itself (so not the trademark, but allowing companies to actually build MSX compatible computers), but also the MSX books & magazines earned quite some money for ASCII Corporation.
Necron
msx lover
Berichten: 108
Geplaatst: 15 September 2003, 20:36   
So, do you mean that the companies should pay to Ascii to build and sell computers that follow the MSX standard created by the ASCII corp?

But thinking that they get revenue by the books and magazines don't seem logical to me. Ok, they could have made some money from this but noone would ever project a new computer system to have profit from the books about it as a main source of money.

The first idea seems more logical, althought it still seems to me that something is not quite right yet... Do anyone in here have something more concrete (or new thoughts) to say?

snout

msx legend
Berichten: 4991
Geplaatst: 15 September 2003, 20:39   
Nishi talked about licensing the one-chip-MSX as well. Of course income from licenses are far more interesting than income from books. MSX-DOS2 and the turboR were 'full ASCII' products IIRC.
Necron
msx lover
Berichten: 108
Geplaatst: 15 September 2003, 20:49   
MSX-DOS2 is a full ASCII product?! What do you mean??? This is not a Microsoft product?
snout

msx legend
Berichten: 4991
Geplaatst: 15 September 2003, 20:53   
Indeed, it was developed by an English software company, ASCII had the rights IIRC.
Necron
msx lover
Berichten: 108
Geplaatst: 15 September 2003, 21:16   
Wow! I didn't know that!
Do you know the name of this English company?

Ascii had to pay microsoft for that? Or this english company have made this DOS2 all over from the start? (I mean: The MSXDOS2 kernel code is different from MSXDOS1?)

(And the most intriguing part: what the hell is iirc?!?)
Arjan
msx addict
Berichten: 468
Geplaatst: 15 September 2003, 22:18   
iirc stands for If I Remember Correctly (first I thought it meant It Is Really Cool )
Necron
msx lover
Berichten: 108
Geplaatst: 16 September 2003, 00:19   
Ahmmm... Much better now.. Thanks!
GuyveR800
msx guru
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Geplaatst: 16 September 2003, 00:50   
The english company that developed DOS2 is called Madge.

ASCII is a book/magazine publisher, so them making money of the MSX standard through their books and documentation is a very plausible scenario.
Rikusu

msx professional
Berichten: 954
Geplaatst: 16 September 2003, 03:03   
If I'm correct, ASCII is not only a book/magazine publisher, but a software publisher as well. Not only for MSX, but for more recent systems as well...

Geez, how come a keyboard doesn't react normally when you have had some drinks?
snout

msx legend
Berichten: 4991
Geplaatst: 16 September 2003, 09:35   
Indeed, many ASCII software titles were sold as well. As far as I know ASCII is only publishing books and magazines at the moment. No more hardware, no more software...
Necron
msx lover
Berichten: 108
Geplaatst: 16 September 2003, 17:06   
Yeah but for a company that only sell books and magazines to launch a computer system, is not very usual... But thanks God the did, ehhe
GuyveR800
msx guru
Berichten: 3048
Geplaatst: 16 September 2003, 17:49   
Unusual, yes, but remember MSX was Nishi's idea, who was working for Microsoft Far East at the time. Nishi took his MSX idea to ASCII later.
 
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