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pitpan
msx master
Berichten: 1367
Geplaatst: 14 Oktober 2003, 17:58   
Quote:

Well, it is an MSX1 game, so I think it looks pretty good for an MSX1 game.

Compared to MSX2 possibilities and compared to the lunapark classic it is indeed ugly

K



But compared to spanish tape version, directly converted from the ZX Spectrum by Xortrapa kids, it looks wonderful! I want to test it.

For example, Zemmina version of Quarth, called Blocks, rocks! It has all the gameplay of the original Konami game. It doesn't happen the same with SUPER BOY, that Mario clone. But SUPER BOY II has got some quality details.

Kind regards,

Ed Robsy

P.S: By the way, do we know something about Zemmina programmers and coders? Perhaps some of them could be easily recovered for the MSX community! Or, at least, they could declare their games as freeware.

POISONIC
msx professional
Berichten: 883
Geplaatst: 14 Oktober 2003, 18:05   
Well if its copyrighted or not
All Msxérs have serval copy's of roms!
the zenix system looks nice.
But the pirated gemes versions of zenix sucks!
pirated konami cardridges like:
Nemesis2
Solidsnake sound like shit!

is this because of the rumor that i heard that the zenix game system had a scc chip build inside????

mars2000you
msx master
Berichten: 1723
Geplaatst: 14 Oktober 2003, 19:58   
No, they don't have a real SCC chip inside, but an "imitation" that is not so good.

You can compare that with the difference between the real FM-PAC sound and the FM-Ship sound !
GuyveR800
msx guru
Berichten: 3048
Geplaatst: 14 Oktober 2003, 20:43   
I thought FM-Ship has a real YM2413 inside, but a really noisy circuit.
mars2000you
msx master
Berichten: 1723
Geplaatst: 14 Oktober 2003, 21:21   
That's indeed the problem with the Korean FM-Ship : the sounds are too high .... that's you can also hear in ParaMSX that doesn't use the more advanced YM2413 emulation.

So, with the false Korean SCC chip, the problem is worse than with the FM-Ship, but we remain in the approximation zone ! The perfection is SCC+ and Turbo-R FM sound !
mars2000you
msx master
Berichten: 1723
Geplaatst: 14 Oktober 2003, 21:44   
You can see the inside of a Zemmix here :

http://assembler.roarvgm.com/Zemmix/zemmix.html

One of these chips tries to imitate the Konami SCC Sound ! It seems that Koreans also had selled apart clone-SCC chips to use with slots-extensions ...
hap
msx addict
Berichten: 463
Geplaatst: 14 Oktober 2003, 22:15   
have the Zemmix bios roms been dumped ? if so, it might be able to boot up in emulators since the hardware is similar to the MSX.
GuyveR800
msx guru
Berichten: 3048
Geplaatst: 14 Oktober 2003, 23:42   
It would be a cool addition to MESS
Argon
msx professional
Berichten: 842
Geplaatst: 15 Oktober 2003, 08:18   
Quote:

You can see the inside of a Zemmix here :
http://assembler.roarvgm.com/Zemmix/zemmix.html
One of these chips tries to imitate the Konami SCC Sound ! It seems that Koreans also had selled apart clone-SCC chips to use with slots-extensions ...



That is only correct for the second Zemmix (Zemmix Super V) on that page.
The first one does NOT have SCC possibilities

Argon
msx professional
Berichten: 842
Geplaatst: 15 Oktober 2003, 08:19   
Quote:

have the Zemmix bios roms been dumped ? if so, it might be able to boot up in emulators since the hardware is similar to the MSX.



My Zemmix is 100% MSX1 compatible.
So there is no reason to believe that the dumped roms wouldn't work on an emulator.

I have however not received the instructions for dumping a normal Korean single game rom yet. Still waiting for the info...

K.
Yukio
msx professional
Berichten: 777
Geplaatst: 18 Augustus 2008, 15:20   
Quote:

That's indeed the problem with the Korean FM-Ship : the sounds are too high .... that's you can also hear in ParaMSX that doesn't use the more advanced YM2413 emulation.

So, with the false Korean SCC chip, the problem is worse than with the FM-Ship, but we remain in the approximation zone ! The perfection is SCC+ and Turbo-R FM sound !



Actually, the Panasonic MSX Turbo R FM sound is not perfect. In fact this implementation from Matsushita/Panasonic is not even in 'stereo'. Some people like the combination of the Brazilian "FM Sound Stereo" plus Konami Snatcher Sound Cartridge.



only_69
msx addict
Berichten: 338
Geplaatst: 18 Augustus 2008, 20:52   
Hey Argon,
That would be a nice thing to see. This old Korean games dumped. I had some problems also dumping some Brazilian cartridges. For example, I managed to dump Super Cobra, from Gradiente but failed to dump Rollerball.
Huey
online
msx professional
Berichten: 582
Geplaatst: 18 Augustus 2008, 21:22   
[removed... figured this thread is 5 years old]
Yukio
msx professional
Berichten: 777
Geplaatst: 18 Augustus 2008, 21:28   
What was removed? Sure, this thread is some years old ... But there still is the need for good ports or remakes of classic games. One thing that make this thing difficulty to do is that some of the classic Software Houses are down or closed.

Anyway, there should be some good alternatives for beat em up games.
Huey
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msx professional
Berichten: 582
Geplaatst: 18 Augustus 2008, 22:47   
Quote:

What was removed? Sure, this thread is some years old ... But there still is the need for good ports or remakes of classic games. One thing that make this thing difficulty to do is that some of the classic Software Houses are down or closed.

Anyway, there should be some good alternatives for beat em up games.



I reacted on a remark made by a person who hasn't been active for some years....
I didn't notice that at first.
 
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