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| Unregistered | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 13:42   |
I was wondering, is there a database available with all the msx-games and applications that have been produced through the years? And I mean a database file, something you can download, not some online database search.
If not, i'm working on one.
Currently, I have put over 1700 games in an excel sheet with these data columns:
TITLE TYPE LOCATION SYSTEM YEAR DISTR. DEVELOPER kB NR.
TYPE would include rom, dsk, bas/bin, cas, etc.
LOCATION includes position on the msx1-mania collection, stuff like that
SYSTEM type of computer the game was designed for: msx1/2/2+/Turbo-R
YEAR year of publication (copyright year)
DISTR. / DEVELOPER include the names of the distributer/publisher and the developing company or individual(s), if available
kB would be the size of the game 8/16/32/64/128/256/512/1024 or some other size
NR. is the publication nr of the game, like the RC-??? for Konami Games
Is anyone interested having this database, because i've not finished putting in all the available data yet... Let me know. If you have any suggestions for the database, please feel free to post them.
I was thinking of including a "CHEAT" section, for cheats with each game, but this would be a major operation.
Thanks in advance. |
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ro msx guru Berichten: 2346 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 13:52   |
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wolf_ online
 msx legend Berichten: 4777 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 14:33   |
does it also include the numerous basic games from msx-fan, and the *thousends* of PD titles MK Public Domain once sold ?  |
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GuyveR800 msx guru Berichten: 3048 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 16:47   |
on a sidenote, those PD titles should REALLY be preserved!
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snout
 msx legend Berichten: 4991 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 17:13   |
I've got all them disk images lying around here, but have not got the time to sort them out and put them in the downloads database. Anyone who wants to help?  |
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| Unregistered | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 17:21   |
Sure, i've added a couple of dozen demos already to my database, and some applications as well, but i don't have much expertise with the msx-appz, but i'd like the database to be as complete as possible. I will contact sandy of generation msx to see what we can do.
I wanted to create something you can keep on your harddisk, a printable list that you can manipulate. For example, with this database it's really easy with to do selections: you can select all games of 1987 for example, or all the 128 kbyte roms from T&E Soft, or all the spanish MSX2-games of 1990 and beyond.
And you can create extra columns of course, maybe one with your own personal score that this game would get from you.
Anyway, I'll keep you posted. |
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| Unregistered | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 17:52   |
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| I've got all them disk images lying around here, but have not got the time to sort them out and put them in the downloads database. Anyone who wants to help? 
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I'm also busy creating the most complete game archive to download, but that's another issue. Right now, it would comprise of 1500 of the 1700 games in my database (all different games in sorted folders, no duplicates and and no avalanche of broken games (like the Tosec archives)). But as this would be a semi-legal issue, i will not discuss it any further here. Check your ed2k in a couple of weeks  .
The database will hold no files, only the listing, which would perfectly legal  . |
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ro msx guru Berichten: 2346 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 17:54   |
I got loads of demos sorted out already, I could mail/upload them if you like. (only 188 Mb so far  )
hmm, I could dump them on a CD and bring them to the msxdev03 next week.. |
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snout
 msx legend Berichten: 4991 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 17:55   |
A games database with downloads is not semi-legal it is completely illegal. There is no excuse for that.
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hap msx addict Berichten: 504 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 17:59   |
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snout
 msx legend Berichten: 4991 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 18:01   |
hehe, well in our case we have permission of the authors and we're talking about -freeware-... I think Duckhunter meant something else  |
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| Unregistered | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 18:04   |
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| A games database with downloads is not semi-legal it is completely illegal. There is no excuse for that.
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Not if you own the original  . Right, like I said I'll not further discuss this matter here.
(I won't refrain from making the software archive though, 15 year old software for an obsolete computer that you cannot buy anymore is imho free to distribute, but hey who am I)
I've mailed sandy about the database (THE SOFTWARE LIST WITHOUT ANY ACTUAL SOFTWARE MIND YOU), so i'll see what happens. If all goes well, a beta listing will be for download soon.
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snout
 msx legend Berichten: 4991 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 18:14   |
Don't get me wrong, I'm very enthousiastic about the databases like Tagoo and Generation MSX, which give you a lot of useful information.
However, you might have noticed that in Japan people are (succesfully) trying to revive the MSX computer again. As part of that revival some of the old MSX computer games (about 100) are actually on sale again @ Project EGG. Since in the MSX Revival every next step depends on the success of the previous step you're harming the MSX Revival with new initiatives like this.
If you own the original, you're not allowed to spread the software, you're only allowed to create a backup for your own use (like.. not destroying your beautiful original disks, for instance) in most countries.
I think creating an MSX warez downloads dataase is a true waste of time, why not spend your time with legal stuff instead (like creating new MSX Software for instance  ) |
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GuyveR800 msx guru Berichten: 3048 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 18:24   |
Your opinion, however humble it is, does not matter. As you might know by reading the news archive of this site, an official MSX emulator (called MSX PLAYer) exists, which you can buy (by buying MSX Magazine). Together with the MSX Game Reader, you can use nearly all 15 year old software, so the software is not obsolete. Additionally, a lot of the software you want to put online is FOR SALE online, for use with MSX PLAYer.
So neither of your arguments hold water. Even then, abandonware does not exist, and it's illegal to distribute copyrighted programs even if you own the originals.
If you want to preserve the MSX software in their true form, maintain a database of hashvalues. People can then make/find/buy copies and compare them with the hashvalue in the database to see if their copy is correct, and not damaged or otherwise broken.
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ro msx guru Berichten: 2346 | Geplaatst: 06 December 2003, 18:43   |
here we go again...
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