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Bombaman and MoonSound problem

Argon
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 16:17   
Hi,

I bought a MoonSound (other topic).
When I try the tracker MBFM, there is no problem, the music sounds good.

I have a problem however when running Bombaman.
The game detects the MoonSound without any problem, but I only get noise and cracking, no music !?

Anyone know this problem and a solution ?

Thank you.
Kris.
hap
msx addict
Berichten: 430
Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 16:26   
I think Bombaman uses the Wave 'part' of the MoonSound. Try MBWave and see if that works. Test the ROM and RAM by playing a few songs known to either use ROM-based samples, or Wavekits.
Argon
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 16:35   
MBWAVE seems to work fine too.

I also downloaded Wolf's demo, and it has screwed up music too :'(

K.
wolf_
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 16:47   
what demo ?
Arjan
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 16:52   
how much SRAM does MBWave say you have? there's one series of MoonSounds (v3.0??) that has SRAM problems. If you have the bad series it'll say something like 640MB (at least, an insanely high number)
Argon
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 16:54   
http://members.chello.nl/m.delorme/
> Moonsound
>> OPL4 Music
>>> WOLF DEMO

K.
Argon
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 16:57   
Available RAM: 416K
Sample RAM 1664K ?????? This seems a bit much

So I think we can say it is the 3.0 series
Can it be fixed ?

Kris.

Arjan
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 17:01   
that doesn't seem to be right indeed. You should contact sunrise and have them fix it.
MeitsNearDark
msx professional
Berichten: 694
Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 19:58   
You bought Haiko's MoonSound... It's a second series moonsound... Dunno if he upgraded the thing (probably not)... Unscrew the case and see if there's an empty place for an IC. If so, you just got 128kb sampleram...

mbwave music is not loadable in mbfm...
if the music in mbwave/mbfm sounds rotten, try to load the wavekit as well then...
sunrise
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 20:07   
There are no bad series of Moonsound
The detection from sram has failures in the old software and improved By koen as well as Marcel delorme
Some moonsounds are more difficult to upgrade and most problems occur with the YAC513M as well as Op-amps.
But Arjan Moonsound version 3.0 doesnot exist
I have sent just Kris the software for detection of the sram. If that is fine we have to look at the noice problem but I think that could be an op-amp or the yac which can be replaced

Abi
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 20:19   
i saw that pic of that moonsound Argon bought and if you ask me it's the moonsound ver. 1.0, with the 'headphoneplug' on the top of the cartrigde!
Argon
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 20:51   
The minijack plug is on the side of the cartridge.

I tried the soft version that Sunrise sent me, it now states Sample RAM: 0 K...
That can't be good.

I think I'll ask my money back, and buy a new one.

K.
Arjan
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Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2004, 22:00   
oh I thought the problem with those moonsounds was hardware related (actually it is, because SRAM behaviour seems to differ per MoonSound). Bombaman is using the SRAM detection from Koen so there shouldn't be any problems with that. But I can imagine the music being noisy if it detects too much SRAM, in which case it will load the samplekit for 256k SRAM. Since that won't fit in 128k it might give strange results
Argon
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 19 Februari 2004, 08:25   
Anybody here knows this Haiko de Boer (that was his name if I'm not mistaken) ?
I want him to refund me, I'll send him the cartridge back.

But he doesn't seem to reply to my emails.
Well, it has been only one day, but if I don't get reply in the weekend, it might be interesting if someone who knows him also contacts him...

Greetz.
K.
msd
msx professional
Berichten: 598
Geplaatst: 19 Februari 2004, 08:56   
This is just a wild guess of me, but is the cartrigde somewhat corroded. Cleaning the cartrigde connector might help. Just with a dry cloth, not with any fluids.
 
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