OKay, lets do a frontpage poll on 'Which is your favorite Assembler'. IN the suggest-a-poll topic we already found a few names, if you know more assemblers please add them here. I don't think we need a round of mega-poll-style voting to figure out which 5 or 6 are the best names to compete on the frontpage, I just want to make sure we're not forgetting a good one here

So far the following assemblers were suggested:

Chaos Assembler (actually is an IDE...)
Compass
Flash
GEN80
META (MSX Engine cross-assembler)
SjASM
TASM
tniASM
WBAss
ZASBAS
Z80ASM

TASM (cross assembler) althought it's not that good

I added it to the list in the initial post, will do the same with other suggestions

Hey, TASM and Chaos Assembler are actually the same thing ^^;

MSX native:
ZEN is another one, I've heard of people using it, but I've never been able to do anything with it ^^;

Crossassemblers:
WLA-DX
AS

Okay, a frontpage poll with about 6 options sounds ideal to me. How about:

Compass
GEN80
SjASM
tniASM
WBass

those are the big ones, if I'm not mistaken. We could do the poll like this or add one more. If you think it makes sense to add one more (of the ones already mentioned, or a completely different one): post it! Please, don't forget to mention -why- you think it should be added.

How could you forget the best of all ?
M80 !!
All my programs are done on it.
The macro capabilities of M80 are awesome.

yeah cool, so you can remove the current poll. Salamander's gonna win bigtime anyway whuhahah. (told you, salamander just rules)

I still think Parodius whouldn't be in that poll and I'm really amazed about the number of people voting for it as being it part of the 'Nemesis Saga'.

And for the assemblers I'd really say:

Compass
WB-Ass2 (which is the actual name like this)
M80/L80
Gen80
tniASM
SjASM
TASM/Chaos Assembler IDE

and then let the people decide which assembler is 'the better one'. It's probably the best way to see how both SjASM and tniASM are going to 'battle each other'.

hmm. poll about BETTER ONE or MOST USED
In my opinion I think (for example) GEN80 is great but WB-Ass2 or Compass just have great enviroments. Therefor I use WB-ASS2 over 'better' assemblers.

There's ofcourse a difference between assmblers (parsers) and enviroments

parsers are: Gen80, M80/L80, flash (remember that basic parser! cool), turbo ASM etc.
enviroment: WB-ass2, Compass etc.

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There's ofcourse a difference between assmblers (parsers) and enviroments parsers are: Gen80, M80/L80, flash (remember that basic parser! cool), turbo ASM etc. enviroment: WB-ass2, Compass etc.

Don't split it up like that, Compass for instance has some nice features in its build-in parser that can not be found in the other (temp/redefinable macro's f.i.)
It also makes it sounds that WB-ass2, Compass etc. are only nice front-ends for other stuff
while for me flash is also more of an environment (nicely (ab)using the MSX-basic editing options...)

neh, some parsers have GREAT features which some IDE does not. But I prefer a IDE over any standalone (dos) anyway.
But I did not suggest to do a split. I just think there's a difference in "better" and "more used" for example.

AND most IDE do have more features like a Monitor, Debugger, Disassembler etc. etc. which makes them MORE than just an asssembler (hehe. check this link for the proove that wbass2 is indeed more than just an assembler www.shoeshistory.com/items/2888567201.html

Hey, Ro!

Did you ever get around the source-size limit in WB? I really love WB, but once in a while my pretty small projects are already too big for WB.. Which is a pity, cause WB is pretty hip... By the way, the guestbook on your site is down! How am I supposed to hassle you like that?!?

The my assembler editor plus compiler.

Too i know the ASCII assembler, but that is a turtle old shit.

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There's ofcourse a difference between assmblers (parsers) and enviroments parsers are: Gen80, M80/L80, flash (remember that basic parser! cool), turbo ASM etc. enviroment: WB-ass2, Compass etc.

Of course you can get around this in the case of GEN80 by just referring to DevPac80 aas the Environment. I'm not sure if anyone used the editor, but the monitor seemed to be useful and powerful.

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Hey, Ro! Did you ever get around the source-size limit in WB? I really love WB, but once in a while my pretty small projects are already too big for WB.. Which is a pity, cause WB is pretty hip... By the way, the guestbook on your site is down! How am I supposed to hassle you like that?!?

Yeah, kinda got around the WB source length. The enhanged version I use has a limit of 20kB. But I use RAMDISK (kernel) for sources and always work in modules. I don't like long sources anyway (still it would be cool to have the option to write over 20k) WB is indeed pretty hip! (I really LOVE and prefer the commandline over any gui)

Uhm, no the guestbook is still online dude...