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 msx guru Berichten: 3019 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 01:07   |
Nope. As far as I have seen it, you must guide the ball through the 'maze' (which is between quotes for the simple reason that there is no maze at all), towards the exit. Then, the stage is beaten. Quite a simple concept though.
Maybe it would be better if Zett implemented scrolling screens or something alike, because I think it's too easy to play just like that. Take an example of the game Chaos mentioned, you know, that Nokia cell phone game.
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BiFi msx guru Berichten: 3142 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 11:06   |
Hmm must have missed that one then. I didn't see any Chaos post in this thread. Maybe you can post the link to the thread (preferably with page) where it is mentioned?
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GuyveR800 msx guru Berichten: 3048 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 14:34   |
Scrolling screens would be difficult in BASIC 
Anyway, I believe there is a time limit.
It's not so much a puzzle game, but more a game of skill.
I spent minutes bouncing all over the place, while Zett himself reached the goal in no-time  |
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IC msx professional Berichten: 538 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 16:21   |
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10 screen5
20 for n=0 to 255:vdp(24)=n:next n
30 goto 20
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 msx legend Berichten: 4777 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 16:48   |
something tells me that guyver was referring to full-length horizontal scrolling  |
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IC msx professional Berichten: 538 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 16:56   |
10 screen 5
20 for n=0 to 255:set scroll 0,n:next n
30 goto 20
don't know the exact syntax of the set scroll for V9958  |
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 msx legend Berichten: 4777 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 17:05   |
something tells me that guyver was referring to full-length horizontal scrolling on an MSX 2
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BiFi msx guru Berichten: 3142 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 18:36   |
Well, at least you have found out how easy it is to silence a politician.  I guess he's still thinking how this can be done in BASIC.
They can try to use the Gfx9000 which has hardware omniscroll built in. Would make Sunrise happy as well and it isn't that hard with GBASIC. |
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 msx guru Berichten: 3019 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 18:50   |
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| Hmm must have missed that one then. I didn't see any Chaos post in this thread. Maybe you can post the link to the thread (preferably with page) where it is mentioned?
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As you wish: Nokia Bouncy Bounce
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 msx guru Berichten: 3019 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 18:56   |
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| something tells me that guyver was referring to full-length horizontal scrolling on an MSX 2
*sigh* .. politicians, always trying to save their ass
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Heh... Well, you could do some nice tricks with the VDP(19) (R#18, the adjustment register) and a lot of HMMMs on a MSX2, but I assume it's impossible in normal BASIC. I recall a small scroll thingy which I wrote myself in NBASIC, using this method. It only went well when sprites were disabled (VDP(9)=VDP(9) OR 2), there were only 192 physical screen lines (VDP(10)=VDP(10) AND 127), and all used variables were declared as integer (DEF INT A-Z). Needless to say, the machine had to run in 50HZ mode (so make that a VDP(10)=2, on screen 5).
Of course, MSX2+/Turbo R is much nicer then  , I mean, BiFi --> Tell me, how many MSX users (aside from me) actually HAVE a GFX9K?
And please, don't use SET SCROLL. Use VDP(26) and VDP(27) instead. It's much faster, the only nasty thing is that you have to do 2 extra calculations for the horizontal offset to fit in these registers. But just consult the V9958 technical manual (Yamaha) for that  |
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 msx guru Berichten: 3019 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 18:58   |
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| It's not so much a puzzle game, but more a game of skill.
I spent minutes bouncing all over the place, while Zett himself reached the goal in no-time 
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Not an issue at all! You were playing on a Turbo R, remember? 
You'll have MUCH more reaction time when playing on a Genuine MSX 2  |
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GuyveR800 msx guru Berichten: 3048 | Geplaatst: 06 Mei 2004, 20:14   |
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If you'll allow me to answer that, there were 2 series of Gfx9K AFAIK, so that would be about 300 people, I guess.
It's been wondered in another thread as well, and I can't remember if Sunrise gave an accurate number then...
Off to the searchpage!  |
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 msx guru Berichten: 3019 | Geplaatst: 07 Mei 2004, 00:31   |
I think there are more MSX2+/Turbo R users than people who actually own a GFX9K. Well, maybe 2 versions of the game could be made  |
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yum msx addict Berichten: 436 | Geplaatst: 07 Mei 2004, 11:05   |
But when you make a GFX9000 version, you must do much more then only scrolling. If you want to do it properly, you must add multilayer scrolls and high resolution screens as well. When you do that you must start from scratch again and that could be the end of a (potential) great game. I like the idea of a GFX9000 game though.
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 msx guru Berichten: 3019 | Geplaatst: 07 Mei 2004, 13:04   |
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| But when you make a GFX9000 version, you must do much more then only scrolling. If you want to do it properly, you must add multilayer scrolls and high resolution screens as well. When you do that you must start from scratch again and that could be the end of a (potential) great game. I like the idea of a GFX9000 game though.
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Just to keep things straight --> Zett doesn't have a GFX9K. And I'm anyhow not involved in the project of that game... Sorry...  |
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