I agree with pitpan - many things that European MSXers consider wide spread, in fact are not.
I'd like people sometimes to look outside their sandbox.

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The new MSX has to keep the esence of an original MSX.

Keeping the essence is not the same as not changing it.

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I agree with pitpan - many things that European MSXers consider wide spread, in fact are not.

There are japanese users that have a MoonSound or even a Gfx9000. The fact that it's not in high use in Japan is simply a software problem. Japanese people don't like trackers, they use MML. So Japanese people don't write msuic for MoonSound.
That leaves them with using European software, but hey! That's all in english! Japanese people don't know english! So they can't use the software, so they don't all buy the hardware, so they don't write MML trackers, ... and the circle is round.

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I'd like people sometimes to look outside their sandbox.

I'd like people to start realizing the MSX scene is international, the revival will not stay in japan and concerns us all, and the mainstream will get in touch with MSX soon.

The skeptics only have to meet the dreamers half-way...

But the skeptics won't meet the dreamers half way cause the skeptics stay where they are and snicker at the dreamers. Or at least shake their heads in disbelief of the dreamers' dillusional dreams. The dreamers have to go all the way.

If I get into conversation with someone on a plane or in the train and they actually know what I am talking about when I say "i just bought a new MSX", i'll stop being skeptical.

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Tight silent Linux system with MIPS RISC CPU (Emotion Engine), 32MB RDRAM, 40GB HDD, 2xUSB, native VGA out up to 1280x1024, 10/100MBit/S ethernet... And guess what? There is some comunity, probably 10 times bigger then MSX community. But it's nowhere near to be anything mainstream.

the new MSX utilizes an ARM CPU doesnt it? then the Linux kernel will run. im not sure what MIPS is, but i think it'll run on that too. i dont think X will run without modification. but at least you'll have a CLI superior to DOS.

Shall we go back to the topic again?
For what pupose can the new all in one be used.
We all know that there are dreamers and skeptics here but lets try to think realistic.
So again, for what purpose?
Just think that the MSX standard we have nowadays will be upgraded to nowadays (hardware) standards.

-Q

~ who gets a bit crazy about if and then and else hardware thinking ppl in this topic ~

Well, i are sure of one thing.... allways exist a lot of guy that can develop at professional level and will do that.

First of all, it will be a handheld device. It will be good for playing games. It will have a keyboard (I presume), so it will be good for working on the road. It will come with a wireless internet connection, so it will be good for surfing the internet and what-have-you. It will be great for programming, it will run a known OS (Linux, MSX-DOS, etc), or a custom OS, just like MSX today.

It will do all the things MSX did/does, and more.

I still have a few important questions. What will it be like, how much will it cost but even more inportant: Why will people buy it in large quantities?

Will it be a game console? Then it must be better than Xbox and PS2, even Nintendo was not able compete with these products? The price must be less than 200 euro.

Will it be a handheld? Then it must be better than HP's Ipaq and cheaper than 300 euro.

Will it be a laptop? Then it must be more powerfull than a Intel Centrino, run every OS, be compatible with all hardware and still be cheaper than say 1000 euro.

Wireless? So does my laptop and even my freakin' phone! Run Linux? Linux runs on everyting. Compatible? With what, other new MSX devices? What devices?

There will be new MSX inovations but they will stay based on MSX, MSX2 and turbo R and will be aditiions to the old hardware. A new revolutionary standard will not happen, never.

If you think I'm just negative, answer a few of the questiosn above and tell me why people are gonna buy this stuff so a MSX-producing company can make money and pay their workers.

ALL (100%!) of your questions have already been answered, read better!

I believe that there will be no chance of success (if they intend to compete with the big companies and sell to the whole market) if they don't make of the new MSX a PDA. (Like a PocketMSX, or PalMSX, hehe).
A brand new computer won't be so powerfull as the PC's or MAC's we have nowadays. Not for being impossible, but for being too much expensive a project like this (and I believe that MSX Assossiation dont have the financial power for it). Even that they make a new computer as powerfull as PC's or MAC's, it is completely different standard, so there will be a great resistence to the general public to get those systems.

But as a PDA, the things seems more easy to accomplish...

MIPS= million instructions per second

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MIPS= million instructions per second

MIPS is also a CPU company

About the topic tho, it surprises me how many people keep coming back to "a new computer that will compete with Mac and PC", because there has NEVER been any talk about that.

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Just one last minute question: it goes to Sunrise boys: how many MoonSound cards have been sold to Japan? I guess that not many. Would they consider to include it in the hipothetic new MSX standard?

I searched and found out that we sold 50 copies of the 450 ( my compliments wolf!)
to Japan. Meaning 11% and that is not that bad if you take in consideration thatSunrise was not popular overthere caused by Genic guys who spoiled the credits in the past.
That changed around 1998 and from 2001 , Nishi lecture entirely.
I would point out that I didnot spoke about the Opl4 as a standard ...
But if your are talking hypothetic yes indeed it might.
I spoke with Nishi after his lecture about this possibility and said yes to take it in consideration. This in contrast to the V9990 where he saw no chances
You speak at that moment that the opl4 has to be putted in a FPGA form since you cannot expect and realize mass production with that IF YOU WANT.
And perhaps it will be cheaper as well

Just let them bring out something already!