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Nice emulator on Microsoft Windows (98SE/ME/2000/XP/2003)

fs5500
msx friend
Berichten: 9
Geplaatst: 22 Juni 2004, 08:49   
I tested the following MSX emulator for Windows.

blueMSX 1.5.0
MESS 0.82
NLMSX 0.48
ParaMSX 0.46(beta)
RuMSX 0.27


In my opinion, blueMSX 1.5.0 is nice emulator than others on Windows.
Of course, NLMSX 0.48 is also nice.
But now, I prefer to use blueMSX than NLMSX.

If blueMSX begin to supports MSXturboR, other Mapper and improve the MSX-Music,
this emulator will be world's No.1 emulator.
Most of goodMSX1/2 software works on blueMSX correctly than others.

BiFi
msx guru
Berichten: 3142
Geplaatst: 22 Juni 2004, 09:31   
You do know MESS 0.83 has been released a few days ago I hope?
karloch

msx addict
Berichten: 399
Geplaatst: 22 Juni 2004, 11:35   
Quote:

If blueMSX begin to supports MSXturboR, other Mapper and improve the MSX-Music, this emulator will be world's No.1 emulator.
Most of goodMSX1/2 software works on blueMSX correctly than others.

blueMSX is one of the best MSX emulators for Win32/DirectX. I just love his video rendering engine, the best that I have seen in any emulator of anything. However, you are forgetting the greatest MSX emulator that we have nowadays: openMSX. openMSX is nowadays the best MSX emulator that you can find. It works under Win32, Linux, FreeBSD and MacOS X (I'm not so sure about this one) and it uses SDL libs.

Maybe that it doesn't have a GUI as friendly as blueMSX one (I haven't see openMSX 0.4 yet, with the improved Catapult), but it is indeed, the best MSX emulator for now.

In a ranking I would put this way:
1. openMSX
2. blueMSX
3. NLMSX
fs5500
msx friend
Berichten: 9
Geplaatst: 22 Juni 2004, 15:14   
Well.

I tested openMSX 0.4.0 too.

It supports many of configulation or special mapper.
It is also good MSX emulator.

But I don't use openMSX so much.
Because openMSX doesn't support a few of goodMSX1/2 just like blueMSX.
(A few of MSX1 software doesn't run correctly than blueMSX or NLMSX.)

ALso its emulation speed is slow than other MSX emulator on MSX/MSX2/2+ mode.

(It requires High perfomance H/W. (Especially CPU / VGA) than other Windows Emulator.)

My H/W is Cel 2.0 with RIVA TNT2 M64.
It is Not so good enviroment to run openMSX.
It is good to run blueMSX.
(BlueMSX is fast on my machine.)

I heard openMSX is optimized to Linux.
I don't know openMSX's emulation speed is higher than Windows.

Although openMSX have catapult for win, I think it is Not so easy to use than blueMSX / ParaMSX / NLMSX.

openMSX is good for emulation MSX H/W.

But blueMSX is more good for emulation MSX S/W for me.
BiFi
msx guru
Berichten: 3142
Geplaatst: 22 Juni 2004, 15:18   
IMO, the combination Catapult/openMSX is the same in use as ParaMSX.
DarQ
msx professional
Berichten: 836
Geplaatst: 22 Juni 2004, 16:22   
Quote:


My H/W is Cel 2.0 with RIVA TNT2 M64.
It is Not so good enviroment to run openMSX.



i have the same videocard, but only an AMD duron 1200. it runs very smooth on my system.
[D-Tail]
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msx guru
Berichten: 2994
Geplaatst: 22 Juni 2004, 19:55   
But you're a Debain Linux user, DarQ... unlike fs5500
I must say I'm happy enough with NLMSX, because I don't think I need perfect emulation. The real thing's the only thing good enough for me

I only use an emulator to make screenshots and to quickly try whether a certain program works.
manuel
online
msx guru
Berichten: 3381
Geplaatst: 24 Juni 2004, 09:32   
Quote:


Because openMSX doesn't support a few of goodMSX1/2 just like blueMSX.
(A few of MSX1 software doesn't run correctly than blueMSX or NLMSX.)



What ROMs are not supported yet, except Super Lode Runner?

Quote:


I heard openMSX is optimized to Linux.
I don't know openMSX's emulation speed is higher than Windows.



Where did you hear that?
The point is: most openMSX developers only run Linux, so the program is mainly developed using Linux. It is however not optimized for Linux, unless SDL works better in Linux or so. Also, it is at least not optimized for Windows. Almost all other MSX emulators *are* optmized for Windows. We hope that more Windows-oriented developers would like to join us to help us making optimizations for the Windows platform, such as using DirectX for rendering.

Note that although openMSX is not optimized for Windows, it is indeed very portable and runs on a lot of operating systems, such as Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS X and Windows.
Porting to other operating systems which have ports of the libraries required for openMSX should not be hard.

Oh, and D-Tail: openMSX is not optimized for any Linux distribution at all. It doesn't matter which one you use, it should work on all of them, as long as the proper librarires are available. So, the fact that DarQ uses Debian is completely irrelevant. (Yes, most openMSX developers use Debian, but certainly not all of them!)
fs5500
msx friend
Berichten: 9
Geplaatst: 26 Juni 2004, 21:57   
>What ROMs are not supported yet, except Super Lode Runner?

A few of Roms doesn't run correctly.
(Especially any Namcot games or other)

But I'm not so interested in openMSX.
So I have no reason to report the bug detailly.

(My interested emulator is blueMSX / NLMSX works on Win32, not on Linux or other platform OS.)
karloch

msx addict
Berichten: 399
Geplaatst: 27 Juni 2004, 01:40   
Quote:

But I'm not so interested in openMSX.
So I have no reason to report the bug detailly.


Reporting bugs is a excellent way to help out to the development of every application, so I think that it is enough reason. ^^

Quote:

(My interested emulator is blueMSX / NLMSX works on Win32, not on Linux or other platform OS.)


That's right, but is there something wrong about an emulator run under other plattaform and OSes besides Windows? I just think that is great that openMSX run under Win32, Linux, FreeBSD and Mac OS X. Of course, blueMSX and NLMSX are great emulators.
[D-Tail]
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msx guru
Berichten: 2994
Geplaatst: 27 Juni 2004, 02:55   
But I think I get fs5500's point: he's a Win32 user (like me) so he just uses stuff that has been specifically designed for that system. No difficult settings for XML files or so ... I could agree with that
manuel
online
msx guru
Berichten: 3381
Geplaatst: 27 Juni 2004, 11:50   
Quote:

No difficult settings for XML files or so



What exactly are you talking about?

And what does it have to do about being not Windows specific?

openMSX runs about the same everywhere (if using the same hardware) and if we get a DirectX renderer, it will probably run quite fast on Windows.
Wibbly
msx user
Berichten: 40
Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2004, 20:21   
openMSX runs fine on my hardware. I'm not sure if on lesser systems the software renderer is bad or anything, but anyone with a gfx card which supports OpenGL I'd advise should run openMSX in GL mode.

I've recently downloaded BlueMSX also, and must admit I like that a lot too. I REALLY like the video options on that one. I can make the image look exactly like my old Philips TV on which I used to run my old MSXs. Sweet.

System:

AMD XP 2500 o/c'd to 3200 on nforce 2 dual channel mobo
512Mb PC3200 Cas2 Dual channel memory (2x256)
eVGA GeForce FX5900 128Mb 8xAGP (core@451, mem@900)
WinXP Pro SP1

tfh
msx addict
Berichten: 492
Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2004, 20:47   
Well, I kinda like both emulators.
BlueMSX for its ease of use and the very nice screen rendering.
OpenMSX because of its high compatibility.

Right now I just use BlueMSX most of the time because of the look & feel. But if something doesn't run correctly (FDD#2!!), I switch to OpenMSX.
IC
msx professional
Berichten: 538
Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2004, 21:20   
All emulators SUCK! I like the real thing hehe
 
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