Hi,

Is it illigal to use tiles and sprites of any MSX game and use it for my own games?
I dont tend to sell them but maybe I want to put them online for others to play.

Anybody know something about this?

Uh.. I think this is simply the generic copyright law .. if you use something from someone else.. you've to ask permission.

I don't know the details about freeware stuff etc...

Wrong place to ask such questions. For me, and most MSX users, it is ok.
Foremost, if you look at early 80s arcade games, you will notice that almost all of them used the same font, usually called the NAMCO font. But it was used by all the companies. And Karoshi is still using it!

I guess that nobody will sue you for such thing, but who knows

btw.. why not make your own tiles/sprites? .. always feels better.. (and is more fun to do)

There even is a great PCtool to create MSX tiles, right wolf

It is illegal, yeah. Ofcourse if you're going to use them for an MSX game it's not likely that anyone would care. If it's for a PC remake it really depends. If you were to make a Metal Gear remake it would certainly be more of a potential problem than if you were to make a Circus Charlie remake... But, in all cases, it is indeed a violation of copyright law...

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For me, and most MSX users, it is ok.

Speak for yourself, pirate!

I tend to agree more with Wolf_, make your own goddawm sprites and tiles. It's not that difficult to do and there are great tools to make them. That's what MSX still is all about to me: make your own stuff.

ok.. no need to use agressive words
But I would like to make my own, and I tried.. but trust me... they are really bad.
I am a programmer not a graphics artist.
And if there is a great tool, anybody mind to give me the name of it?

On MSX, DD-Graph (also known as AGE(.COM)) is the best tool for tile-based graphics. If you want to use hardware sprites, DD-Graph also comes with a sprite editor (called SPE5 IIRC) for multi-color sprites.

If you really need to rip graphics, because you suck and you can't find someone that sucks less than you , then rip graphics from other systems than MSX, that will be less conspicuous

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Hi, Is it illigal to use tiles and sprites of any MSX game and use it for my own games? I dont tend to sell them but maybe I want to put them online for others to play. Anybody know something about this?

I guess it's not legal but truly if it's just for your own amusement and not for commercial purpose, who cares... If you're ready to assume the unlikely comments/complains from the original maker (tho I wonder who would mind after 20 years or so to see his sprites re-used).

Of course it's always better to make original stuffs but if you're just a programmer, and there is noone to help you make GFX, why bother spending days drawing ugly sprites when you could spend more time on what you're good at, that is programming.

I think there are at least 10 ppl crawling around here, chained with ropes to a metal ball in a dark dungeon, who you could ask to draw a few thingies for ya.., unless it's a complete RPG ofcourse ^^: .. but if you only request a few players/enemies, and some cliche tiles .. it won't take gfx artists much time..

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I think there are at least 10 ppl crawling around here, chained with ropes to a metal ball in a dark dungeon, who you could ask to draw a few thingies for ya.., unless it's a complete RPG ofcourse ^^: .. but if you only request a few players/enemies, and some cliche tiles .. it won't take gfx artists much time..

Oh you just wish it was a complete RPG don't you ?

About tools, DD-graph is ok. But I prefer Photoshop, really. Faster and accurate, you can do everything with it. Then, get the final product in RAW format and convert it.

About using ready made tiles, this humble pirate accepts it and promotes it. Some other copyright geeks won't agree. So, don't let them play YOUR game, that's all.

Regards,

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So, don't let them play YOUR game, that's all.

What do you mean "that's all"? You can't stop someone from playing your game, just like there's no way you can stop someone from visiting a website. I've seen you make statements like this on your pages before, as if it would protect you legally. So here's a recent precedent:

Lindows was forced to change to Linspire world-wide, because Microsoft won a case in ONE country so that Lindows couldn't use the name Lindows anymore. So Lindows changed it, but that was not enough, because users from that country could still visit their global website, either directly or via proxy (in case of IP block) and see/download Lindows...

So either I'm completely mistaken, or statements like "if you're a *** employee you are not allowed to visit this page or download this product" only make you look foolish and suspicious.