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| How to make a remake (music)
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ewsnatcher msx friend Berichten: 4 | Geplaatst: 29 Augustus 2004, 16:41   |
Is was wondering...
What equipment do i need for my PC to rearrange MSX music?
What is commonly used by you guys, like Wolf or J-War?
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BiFi msx guru Berichten: 3142 | Geplaatst: 29 Augustus 2004, 16:43   |
You can also rearrange music for a totally different chip (on MSX) and record it on PC to make an MP3 or something.
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wolf_ online
 msx legend Berichten: 4663 | Geplaatst: 29 Augustus 2004, 16:58   |
uh .. that question is quite generic  You could also have asked: "what equipment do you generally use?", since (my) remakes or normal songs aren't really different, technically.
I'm the tracker-type so I use Impulse Tracker 2 for composing/arranging, with a load of samples, and software like Vegas 4 and Soundforge to mix and master..
But I know that J-War fo_Or example wO_orks co_Ompletely different. There's no formula for all this.. The only thing you can do is just 'do it', release it, and ask for opinions. Generally I always give tips when I give opinions, because those tips are usually based on my opinion about the remake
Oh.. there's one hint tho: if you're doing a remake of a Konami game, try KSS .. (not the winamp plugin, but that neat little player by F.Groen), it supports diskwriting.. which is a good method of getting all the correct notes! |
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Jorito msx freak Berichten: 211 | Geplaatst: 29 Augustus 2004, 17:25   |
And some more hints: use ParaMSX, disable some sound channels with it, and let it write the output to a wavefile. Then you can load that wavefile in a sound editor, slow it down, and pick out the notes at leisure! At least that's what I did for a really tricky part in an F-1 Spirit song I was rearranging
And it's basically just like Wolf said, it depends on yourself. Wolf prefers trackers and lots of samples, I prefer MIDI (synths) + a few samples, and I think J-War prefers real instruments supplemented by synths for the stuff he can't play  |
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J-War msx freak Berichten: 221 | Geplaatst: 29 Augustus 2004, 19:03   |
My sequencer is Cakewalk Sonar 3 it allow me to manage all midi and sample operations. It features full compatibility with ASIO and WDM drivers plus VSTi and DXi plugins.
The other famous sequencers are Cubase SX 2, Logic Audio 5 and Pro Tools. There's no realy best progs between those, you'll have to see which fits the best your needs.
If you only use samples and no midi i'd suggest to find a tracker like the one wolf spoke about above.
You need a 'decent' sound card too, actualy most of basic sound cards should be enough for you to begin comfortably.
Ah and i forgot : as it was told before, using fGroen KSS will help retrieving notes accurately. Kss will also allow you to output the isolated track to a wavefile, if you put this wavefile in Sonar and lower the Tempo, that will lower the wavefile tempo too which will allow to make the retrieveing process easier.
Having soundforge could be useful in many way too, this prog allow you to edit any sample with almost ullimited possibilities if you have the right plugins.
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Jorito msx freak Berichten: 211 | Geplaatst: 29 Augustus 2004, 19:39   |
Wow, I never knew KSS could mute individual channels and write the output to wav too... nice tip!
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wolf_ online
 msx legend Berichten: 4663 | Geplaatst: 29 Augustus 2004, 19:42   |
o_O .. that's already a fact for more than a year I think  |
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BiFi msx guru Berichten: 3142 | Geplaatst: 29 Augustus 2004, 20:11   |
Yeah. Using File, Sound settings you can mute channels.
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J-War msx freak Berichten: 221 | Geplaatst: 30 Augustus 2004, 00:39   |
o_O O_O O_o
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Sonic_aka_T
 msx guru Berichten: 2262 | Geplaatst: 30 Augustus 2004, 03:44   |
O_o o_o o_O
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MeitsNearDark msx professional Berichten: 702 | Geplaatst: 30 Augustus 2004, 10:46   |
When using KSS and mute all but one channel, it's impossible to make errors, so there should appear some flawless covers once  |
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Low_Profile msx addict Berichten: 289 | Geplaatst: 30 Augustus 2004, 11:44   |
I still use different tools too... I mainly use Cakewalk Pro with a synth, but lately I've been using Reason 2.5 too... cakewalk+synth arranges faster, but you don't have as much 'direct' control as in Reason (Reason allows you to compose AND master a track) though I usually do some postprocessing with Adobe Audition.
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ro msx guru Berichten: 2320 | Geplaatst: 30 Augustus 2004, 12:38   |
to master: Cool Edit Pro. period.
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Low_Profile msx addict Berichten: 289 | Geplaatst: 30 Augustus 2004, 12:55   |
Quote:
| to master: Cool Edit Pro. period.
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Adobe Audition == Cool Edit Pro  |
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MrRudi msx addict Berichten: 465 | Geplaatst: 30 Augustus 2004, 13:54   |
Same here (same as profile): Cakewalk with synths, post-processing in Audition and a lot of plugins (Izotope stuff). I don't use Reason though. Everything is hardware.
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