At last....

The thing is: "did Guyver800 really want to come back easily?". Guyver800 words offended the MRC admins, ok, but in the other hand MRC response against him was too hard imho... the two sides of every story.

My little contribution to this: the MRC don't want Guyver800 to express himself, but isn't possible to let him enter the site, see the news, read the post, etc... even without posting?.

This is an option assuming you don't want Guyver800 to post here... you know the BEST option of all is to talk with him, put things clear, calm down and readmit him here (where he must be). Peace

I'd like to say just I don't know what could Guyver800 said to be perm banned (!!!). Look, people are very -very- different... and all discrepances could be solved, when both of them gives something.

I guess the issue was the "words" used by Guyver800 to say something...
:? so hard was it ????

If there is no possible solution (:?sure?), I'll miss Guyver800, he was a great post writer.

Let's just be frank, he was an annoying fuck at most times, he forced HIS opinion on others with a boatload of words that say 'you agree with me, or you are stupid' and he exploded everytime someone did the same to him. Just look at the amount of flamewars he got into, whether you want to call that his fault or not, if one particular person happens to end up in a flamewar time after time again, it's no coincedence.

Now I have no clue what he did to get a perm ban :? but if you put all of the above aside, he is a very useful community member, his efforts for the MSX community are many, his devotion to the MSX system is sickenly obsessive Even I must respect the work he has done, and continues to do. I wouldn't mind having him back, I think the plusses of his presence outweigh the minusses.

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Of course I am not the one he insulted this time, and as I said I don't know what happened this time. Taken the history of clashes between Guyver and MRC, it has to stop somewhere. And everybody in this topic is yelling about communication, but it never helped in the past. When do you decide to stop talking?

Yes Mr Rudi, that's my opinion too... although I can't tell a example of what HE did for the MSX community...

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Yes Mr Rudi, that's my opinion too... although I can't tell a example of what HE did for the MSX community...

Besides sharing his knowledge here on MRC and on IRC, just take a look over here for some examples: http://www.tni.nl/products/

I don't think things will be solved via written communication. Get on the phone or get together in real time to talk things out. It's the only way to make progress in situations like this.
Also, if it's technically possible, it would be nice to give him at least read-access. Although he won't like it, I guess, because (in his own words) he "won't be able to defend himself". Which is correct, of course. OTOH: no need to defend yourself if you don't get into this trouble. Just talk about MSX and you don't *need* to defend yourself.
And I can't help to agree with most of Rudi's post...

Now I have heard what happened, I tend to agree with the first part of my earlier post, and stopped agreeing with myself on the latter part (about having him back). I agree with MRC that this has gone several steps to far, and to quote a gay British failed actor "good riddance"

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Now I have no clue what he did to get a perm ban :?

I wouldn't give too much details, but I have seen the deleted post of GuyveR800.

He was very angry about one of the MRC moderators, because it seemed him that it was a victim and not the aggressor in previous posts and that the MRC policies were unfairly applied.

As he was very angry, he has used an aggressive word with politic meaning.

I could give more details in a private forum but there's apparently no will from MRC to open such private forum ...

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I could give more details in a private forum but there's apparently no will from MRC to open such private forum ...

Just a thought:
You could consider making a closed/private forum somewhere else, where you only give access to a selected group of MSX-ers. One one side, I can underatand that MRC doesn't want such a forum on their site. But I can also understand there is a need for such a thing. So why not open up something like that somewhere else?

well.. you can visit my private forum @ [private].[private].[private]

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well.. you can visit my private forum @ [private].[private].[private]

Ehm.. Well.. Maybe that's a bit too private?

MrRudi, now that you've heard one side of the story, it's only fair to join #msxdev on the Rizon network to get the other side of the story before you can actually write things like that...

No Bifi it's not, the language/terms used, and comparisons made are inexcusable in whatever context, at least in the world I live in. Besides I hardly doubt the 'other side' will be more than "he started it", "but he called me that!" and "he did this!" which isn't really that interesting. The one-sided-story I heard but mostly the topic I read justifies a ban. Period.

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Also, if it's technically possible, it would be nice to give him at least read-access.

he can use a proxy or just another IP address?? they can't deny him read-access for a long time.