Blahblahblah... too many words spent on this topic already...

ah, so here are some more : O_o

ok, i heared both sides of the story. and i understand.

what happened to GuyveR800 , the same f**** thing that makes the wars between countries.... the same f****** thing that killed ppl around the world, the same f**** thing that makes cultures to be divided...

when you guys will stop?...

i not want to enter in details...

i am not talking about a fact or maybe two....

i am not talking about who started... that is too later now.

i am not talking about what triggered the current situation.

i am talking about the unjustice...

i am talking about partiality, yes PARTIALITY....

i am talking about taking reactions too exagerated without caring all the story....

but, i want to spot the other side of the story a bit.... ( i hope not to hurt nobody)

when a moderator moderates, needs be unpartial, that is to say, the same rules for everybody, without caring if the guy is inside or outside of the mrc elite group.

if somebody (doesn't care who), is moderated in his posts, but the sames rules are not applied for the other ones, this person feels that the moderator is unjust, and that hurts include more than the contents of the posts.

GuyverR800 is not differents of any other guy here... But when a guy is isolated from a community that hurts a lot. (personally i have some experiences about it), that damages a lot, and the worst punishment that can be applied a person it is the SILENCE!!!, that kills the soul of everybody.

where is the personal pride under these situations?

Under that situation ones accumulates anguish, no cares who...

but that anguish one time needs to explode. If that explosion was expressed... in hurting words.... well that was the result, not the facts.

i personally wonders if the mrc team is enought mature as for to forgive "the result", and to to revise its own errors.

And only in that way the wars around the world can be solved.

Or is not the same f**** thing in differents scales!!!!.....





So,

I personally found in this community as the one that i want to be. But not if this things happens. Not, that.

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GuyverR800 is not differents of any other guy here...

That's where you're wrong...

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That's really too easy to answer on this way . I think that flyguille has better explained than me what humans must normally feel in such a painless situation, and what you can give as "answer" is only a subtle form of sarcasm.

So, please, in stead of such negative attitude, try to understand that each person needs respect, even if he has made some errors. Of course, people like you never make errors !

somehow I think the last word hasn't been spoken about this subject o_O

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what shameless is this reply, how do you dare?

By things like this one, you needs a BAN too. But ofcourse the rules are not the same for all, now the ppl can to see it just reading your reply, without knowing all the picture.


don't you maybe have soul?

this is humanly revolting!!!

People, could we please start focussing on MSX again? This constant whining has me awfully tired. I really dislike all this negativity on our forum, and the worst part is that some people here don't even care about the issue at hand but are just taking advantage of this situation to stirr things up.

Please, let's focus on our hobby. Your bitching and whining is really not going to change anything, and it just fouls up the atmosphere on our forum. If you really feel this strongly about this issue, I suggest you send a nice e-mail to the MRC admins explaining your opinions and feelings on the matter.

Let's please try to have a positive atmosphere on these forums, focussing on the hobby we all love, instead of on the negativity that may sometimes cloud it. Like said, I hope you all will vent your anger, opinions and other remarks towards the parties involved, and not towards the other 99% of our visitors who really don't care either way and just want to read up on and talk about their hobby...

My thanks in advance

Sonic: the beauty of a forum in apose to real life chat is that if you don`t like whining posts, just don`t read them

And to the MRC team: You guys are doing a great job keeping MSX in Europe alive, that`s for sure. But don`t isolate people, just rise above it.

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what shameless is this reply, how do you dare? By things like this one, you needs a BAN too. But ofcourse the rules are not the same for all, now the ppl can to see it just reading your reply, without knowing all the picture. don't you maybe have soul? this is humanly revolting!!!

LOL... all I'm saying is that NOBODY is the same... and I for one would never react in the same way to moderated messages as GuyveR800 would. That's what I meant with my reply.

Now you are the one with the shameless reply... asking for a ban like a child... LOL, what did I ever do to you.

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That's really too easy to answer on this way . I think that flyguille has better explained than me what humans must normally feel in such a painless situation, and what you can give as "answer" is only a subtle form of sarcasm. So, please, in stead of such negative attitude, try to understand that each person needs respect, even if he has made some errors. Of course, people like you never make errors !

Maybe I should have elaborated a bit more... People seem to respond to my reply as fire to gasoline.

Flyguille stated a bit too generalizing that Guyver feels the same about these issues as anyone else. Fact is that nobody reacts the same... about anything even. That makes us human.

Generally speaking, most people know where the line is drawn.... GuyveR800 crossed it... on more than one occasion, so you can't say he wasn't warned.

And I ofcourse also make errors I recently refilled my sugar-bin with the sugarspoon still at the bottom of the bin, how about that error

Low_Profile, you're evil

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if somebody (doesn't care who), is moderated in his posts, but the sames rules are not applied for the other ones, this person feels that the moderator is unjust, and that hurts include more than the contents of the posts.

So, you're saying that's what happened? Without clear evidence it's quite an arbitrary remark, sorry.

(I've nothing against GR800 BTW, but a debate must be feeded by proper arguments, not blahblah)

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And I ofcourse also make errors I recently refilled my sugar-bin with the sugarspoon still at the bottom of the bin, how about that error

Fly is right, you must be banned. That's disgusting.

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So, you're saying that's what happened? Without clear evidence it's quite an arbitrary remark, sorry.

That's exactly why a private forum should be useful.

The clear evidence is deleted by MRC in the public forums. Difficult to discuss without the texts (first, the discussion that leads to mod's intervention; secondly, the reaction to this intervention .... two different threads).

It should probably not be a good thing to make these texts again public, but they should be available for discussion in a private forum between people of good will.

But where's the good will of MRC ? They don't want to create this private forum.

I don't say that the private forum is THE solution to all painfull problems, but that's A PART OF THE SOLUTION. Another part, probably the more important, is the personal contacts between the concerned people (not by mail or phone, but direct human contact) to explain the things in a serene atmosphere and go to a peaceful solution. The private forum could help these people to go in the good direction.

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The clear evidence is deleted by MRC in the public forums. Difficult to discuss without the texts (first, the discussion that leads to mod's intervention; secondly, the reaction to this intervention .... two different threads).

So in fact others have been moderated as well?