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Henk
msx lover
Berichten: 99 |  Geplaatst: 24 November 2004, 12:01 |
Hi guys,
I am playing some games for old times sake.
But the problem is that my PC beeps everytime if I press 3 buttons :S
While playing Zanac it is a real pain in the ***
Anyone know if its a build-in hardware "feature" or can I bypass this "feature"?
Greetz,
Henk
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BiFi
msx guru
Berichten: 3142 | Geplaatst: 24 November 2004, 12:09 |
Indeed there are some combinations that have unfortunate side-effects and I don't think there are any hardware work-arounds for that. Especially the cursor-up + cursor-left + space or cursor-down + cursor-right + space are quite annoying. Fortunately Zanac has two keys which fire the two weapons seperately (space fires both weapons): shift and Z.
Depending on the emulator it's possible to remap the keyboard keys to the MSX matrix.
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Henk
msx lover
Berichten: 99 | Geplaatst: 24 November 2004, 12:50 |
the MSX was ahead of its time (and still is) with the keyboard  |
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[D-Tail]
msx guru
Berichten: 2994 | Geplaatst: 24 November 2004, 23:20 |
Do you think so? I find a polling-based keyboard quite the pain in the **... It happens often that I type the letters 'MSX' on my A1ST, resulting in 'MScolor 15,4,7'...
** pisses on the lame keyboard matrix ** 
Retry: 'MS[pause]X' --> 'MSX' --> YAY! |
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Sonic_aka_T
msx guru
Berichten: 2262 | Geplaatst: 24 November 2004, 23:37 |
well, the MSX keyboard suffers from ghosting too, iirc. It's just optimized better to allow for game-minded keyboard mashing...
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[D-Tail]
msx guru
Berichten: 2994 | Geplaatst: 25 November 2004, 00:01 |
thaz wha I was talkin' 'bout. Dude.
Seriously: on one of your futuredisks (#39 iirc) the whole matrix plot is detailed. Arjan found it when coding the Metal Gear parody  |
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NYYRIKKI
msx master
Berichten: 1503 | Geplaatst: 25 November 2004, 00:18 |
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| It's just optimized better to allow for game-minded keyboard mashing...
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You know... It is not just habit to use GRAPH as second fire button (or N/M in Konami games). Some games also use SHIFT, but have you noticed that those games don't use keys F1-F3 at all. 
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It is MSXcolor 15,4,7
Somehow I have also always had BASICY.BAT in my HDD path.
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NYYRIKKI
msx master
Berichten: 1503 | Geplaatst: 25 November 2004, 00:51 |
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| Seriously: on one of your futuredisks (#39 iirc) the whole matrix plot is detailed. Arjan found it when coding the Metal Gear parody
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There is no any mystery. Take a look at MSX keyboard matrix. (can be found from many manuals) If you see, that two keys are in a same row and you can draw a retangle, where three pressed keys are in the corners, the "ghost key" is the missing corner of the retangle. |
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Henk
msx lover
Berichten: 99 | Geplaatst: 25 November 2004, 11:37 |
So, if I understand correctly, its a hardware thingy.. I can't change a thing with software?
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Sonic_aka_T
msx guru
Berichten: 2262 | Geplaatst: 25 November 2004, 17:19 |
Nope, ghosting occurs on a hardware level... nothing you can do about it... I don't know if there are USB keyboards out there with a more game-friendly key-matix tho, you never know...
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[D-Tail]
msx guru
Berichten: 2994 | Geplaatst: 25 November 2004, 21:36 |
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Hmmm... that must be compass then ... It apparently ignores everything typed within 1/60s after a line break ...
So that's why it is MScolor 15,4,7 here |
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