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Okay thanks for the infomation, I am glad that's sorted out. By the way: Didn't you mean MSX-DOS 2.xx system files? Or are both MSX-DOS-ses free to distribute with software that requires it?

If I remember correctly, if was some time ago, it specifically mentioned the system files. As I recall this covered 'all' versions of MSX-DOS by ASCII. I don't know if such a thing would include the HSH DOS2 versions though, if there even is such a thing.

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Well I thought It'd better I removed the link before one of the moderators did it .

That's always better, yeah... Some visitors get really paranoid when they see the word {modded} on their screen.

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Bitching and whining? Wow you're going to force a ban on me because I spoke my mind about what I feel is an inconsistancy in the MRC policy? . Very sorry you think I am a group of MSX users. Thanks anyway for pointing 'us' to the MRC policies. .

I don't know, are you banned? It's more or less like snout said, it gets really boring to defend the no-warez policy time after time. It's only worse when people draw the 'good-old' parallel to music and remakes, since the only thing that does is edge us towards a more strict level of no-copyright-issues where, I guess, we really wouldn't like to end up. Ofcourse the level of legal-responsability of linking to a site with a remake or a copyrighted ROM file is quite different. Basically MRC it trying to walk the grey line that will keep it out of trouble while it can still be a nice source of information for its users.

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When did I do it then? And what the hell is that openMSX/blueMSX thing I've been reading so much about? .

Well, by it I mean the 'emulation of certain software' Perhaps you could set up a forum somewhere where it could be done? Be sure not to link to it from MRC tho!

btw.. now that we're talking about (c) .. would MRC report news about, and review, a re-arrange music-CD that's for sale on a fair, based on MSX-game tunes by (former) MSX gamecompanies?

Sure! Just make sure you have all the royalty contracts, signed by the original composers and copyright owners, duely authenticated by a notary public and translated by a certified Dutch translator. Oh, in threefold of course...

and if not?

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If I remember correctly, if was some time ago, it specifically mentioned the system files. As I recall this covered 'all' versions of MSX-DOS by ASCII. I don't know if such a thing would include the HSH DOS2 versions though, if there even is such a thing.

Koolie!

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That's always better, yeah... Some visitors get really paranoid when they see the word {modded} on their screen.

I agree, that's why I removed the link myself. Ah! I see you like the word {modded} too! .

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I don't know, are you banned? It's more or less like snout said, it gets really boring to defend the no-warez policy time after time. It's only worse when people draw the 'good-old' parallel to music and remakes, since the only thing that does is edge us towards a more strict level of no-copyright-issues where, I guess, we really wouldn't like to end up. Ofcourse the level of legal-responsability of linking to a site with a remake or a copyrighted ROM file is quite different. Basically MRC it trying to walk the grey line that will keep it out of trouble while it can still be a nice source of information for its users.

Well, according to this, I'm not banned . And about defending the 'no-warez policy', it seems you don't have one as linking to specific things is banned when.... Oh hell, it's just a matter of how PC you want to be . And maybe I wasn't clear enough: I just wanted to put my opinion on 'warez' out there regarding those precious policies. Sorry if I didn't make the joke more obvious and some felt the need to take it personally .

Reminds me of a small city I live nearby: "It's okay as long as no-one talks about it" .

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Well, by it I mean the 'emulation of certain software' Perhaps you could set up a forum somewhere where it could be done? Be sure not to link to it from MRC tho!

'Certain software'... NOW you're REALLY getting me curious! .

Again: "It's okay as long as no-one talks about it" .

... awful lot of 's used this time .

Never give up MSX! Have fun!

BodyHammeR

I'd say we'd review such an arrangement, Wolf.

And you do speak as 'MRC' ? not just as 'Latok' ?

It's a bit of an odd situation then.., while MRC is quite picky on legal things (which I don't argue about btw, I guess a clean MRC contributed heavily to Bazix and the whole contact-stuff with JP), but in this case -and I know the music/(c)-law- .. I find it amazing that 'MRC' goes so easy on re-arranges Ofcourse, that's something we all like.. ^___^ it's just a bit odd. Grey area perhaps ... very dark-grey then I'd say .. (1,1,1) orso ..

In that the MRC is no different than -say- MCCM. We try to report on as much as possible and, although some people think we're way too strict on things, often find ourselves in the 'grey area' of remakes, translations and musical re-arrangements.

Besides, writing about illegal things is never illegal. There's a huge different between the sentence 'Look! Download all Konami games for free over here!' and 'If you look carefully you can find all Konami games for free on the internet'.

But euhm.. lets stick to the MSX abc over here, if you'd like to discuss the ins and outs of the MRC policies any further I suggest you open a different topic on that.

yeah.. perhaps you can take all the (c)-related stuff out and put it in a dedicated topic?

Do I may say something?
If emul8this is the owner of an Turbo-R and he don't have the disks that come with a new Turbo-R, Than it is imho not illegal if someone give him a copy of those disks, because as being a owner he paid in someway for the copyrights

hm.. also when he bought it 2nd-hand? With software you usually see licences talking about the user not being allowed to re-sell the rights of the software.

Assuming legacy is right (which I personally do) that still doesn't make it legal to provide a link to that software on a forum where thousands of other people visit as well . But if emul8this can leave his e-mail addy here I'm sure someone will send him the disk images...

Yes, if possible pls send to alan.yau@rogers.com . I am the owner of a Turbo R ST and wish to use it on the MSX alone, and not by any means to distribute it in any form to make any profit of the software.

I understand that copyright rules are if the Unit is Original user, then that licence is for the first party. Even if the unit was passed on to a second part then the licence would be invalid. But to start with this MSX would only sold in Japan, then that means that any licence for this unit is also invald for warranty and also licence too. Then everyone who owns a Japanese MSX is also considered illegal for exporting even thought the current owner bought it from a seller in Japan. I know the do's & don't of this trade. I am also willing to purchase these disks but only from Panasonic if they still exsist. not OEM nor repacked but an offical statement that this is genuine licenced to me.

Anyways, what good are these disks if they user doesn't have an MSX Turbo R?

Uhm, emul8this... Do you read any of the posts I write to you? Because if you don't I might as well save myself some time Did you visit the NLMSX site yet? It has lot's of wonderful information for an MSX Turbo-R user like yourself... *sigh*

Why do you specifically mention the NLMSX site for turboR info?