Heheh, when we told Wammes about that one he told us he was absolutely convinced his version had a MAMBO titlescreen and concluded it must've been an early beta. As Konami actually did intend to name the game Space Mambo at first, it's not even entirely impossible, but I'll only believe it when I see the evidence myself

SAMOR

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(Does anyone have/remember the picture of the "Slak" that was once on a cover? I liked that; in fact, I even imitated the drawing in Designer Plus myself, but that one got lost)

Thanks for liking it. I can remember people where quite shocked at the time Glad it made an impression!

DemonSeed

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It was Mari vd Broek of TNI who drew that picture; A few years ago I met him again in a very seedy heavy metal/gothic joint, where we eventually recognized eachother as being "MSX brothers" and wreaked some havoc in that stupid gothic bar together! I think Guyver may know more about the whereabouts of this guy, as those two were (or still are?) TNI...

Well, I am still not Mari vd Broek, but Marius (Akuma) - as someone pointed out. Kudos! - And I still can be found at seedy gothic bars. Quite a lot actually. I am quite active running one of the biggest Goff messageboards in the Benelux. (I dare to say: The Largest) - So, come to a Seedy bar (I'd recomend Legendz in Amsterdam) and you will probably find me there moping and complaining that a moonsound sounds better then most stuff they play. And it does. I still love it!

Maybe I have the Escargoth on file somewheres. But a miniversion can be seen here:

-SNIF- The MCCM cover.... such good memories...

/me is sitting in front of his physical mailbox again at his parent's house on a thursday morning, waiting for Pieter Post to arrive

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Well, I am still not Mari vd Broek, but Marius (Akuma) - as someone pointed out. Kudos!

Yes Akuma, it was me ! Good to see you back dude ! It's Jaap O. Mark, remember ?

BTW: didn't MC(C)M include the cover-images on disk ?

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-SNIF- The MCCM cover.... such good memories...

Ooh yes, every new MC(C)M magazine was like an orgasm, everything else had to wait ; the world stopped spinning until I had read the magazine from A to Z twice ;-)

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Yep, I knew, it stand for something like S... Mayer Association(?). Did the S stand for Scott? But I was surprised that the Boss is Dutch from origin. So I just wondered if other groups(like SMA) also had a dutch origin. Did these crackers have direct contact with Japanese stores, to obtain fresh material?

SMA= Spysoft MG Mayer Association, from North of France

listing of their launcher file just give like:

10 '------------------------------
20 '- SMA INTERNATIONAL -
30 '------------------------------

snail adress was in some of theirs releases, hidden in the launcher of their intro. To find him a load"launcher.bas"
save "sample.bas",a

And then edit the file sample.bas with an editor, to fin two poke to make to see the entire source file who was protected in memory by a poke who change the basic adress of line 40 with a number greater than 65535, then basic dont read it when you make a LIST, but can execute it when you do a RUN

poke seem like:
poke &h8004,40
poke &h8005,0

just change the &h8004 and &h8005 by the real hex adresses find in the file

The return of another TNI member in progress here?

Hey Akuma...

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Heheh, when we told Wammes about that one he told us he was absolutely convinced his version had a MAMBO titlescreen and concluded it must've been an early beta. As Konami actually did intend to name the game Space Mambo at first, it's not even entirely impossible, but I'll only believe it when I see the evidence myself

Can you by any chance convince Wammes to make a screenie of that version's intro then?

I'll try

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listing of their launcher file just give like: 10 '------------------------------ 20 '- SMA INTERNATIONAL - 30 '------------------------------ snail adress was in some of theirs releases, hidden in the launcher of their intro. To find him a load"launcher.bas" save "sample.bas",a And then edit the file sample.bas with an editor, to fin two poke to make to see the entire source file who was protected in memory by a poke who change the basic adress of line 40 with a number greater than 65535, then basic dont read it when you make a LIST, but can execute it when you do a RUN

or just: RENUM ;-). One could also 'poke' backspaces and newlines (and other normally illegal chars) into a BASIC listing, giving a result like:

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Elite MSX-Basic Program (C) Copyright by Newbie-Script Kiddie 100 ' Start of Program 110 SCREEN 0: WIDTH 80: KEY OFF: COLOR 15,1,1

Which looks even cooler ;-) I used this in the BASIC loaders, for example in TNI Windows 95 ... You could also do this with dir-listings ...

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Quote: Well, I am still not Mari vd Broek, but Marius (Akuma) - as someone pointed out. Kudos! Yes Akuma, it was me ! Good to see you back dude ! It's Jaap O. Mark, remember ? BTW: didn't MC(C)M include the cover-images on disk ?

Yes I do, Hoorn area isn't it? Anyways,

That is what I thought as well, the disk. If someone still got that CD set MCCM gave out it might be on there as well...

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Which looks even cooler ;-) I used this in the BASIC loaders, for example in TNI Windows 95 ... You could also do this with dir-listings ...

Yes, but if you use it with dir-listings, you'll get (at least visual) problems with DOS & DOS2 for sure. You can anyway trick normal "FILES" command to give you nice animations. :-)

To see this trick in action, look here:
http://www.msx.org/forumtopic4442p37.html

Here is detailed explanation:
http://www.msx.org/forumtopic4577.html

I have also used these tricks from 1996 in all my BASIC related programs / demos.

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SMA= Spysoft MG Mayer Association, from North of France /snip/ snail adress was in some of theirs releases, hidden in the launcher of their intro.

Great, was it a group of several people, or just one or two individuals? Does anybody know/had contact with them? I never knew that the north of France also had a MSX scene.

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SAMOR Quote: (Does anyone have/remember the picture of the "Slak" that was once on a cover? I liked that; in fact, I even imitated the drawing in Designer Plus myself, but that one got lost) Thanks for liking it. I can remember people where quite shocked at the time Glad it made an impression! DemonSeed Quote: It was Mari vd Broek of TNI who drew that picture; A few years ago I met him again in a very seedy heavy metal/gothic joint, where we eventually recognized eachother as being "MSX brothers" and wreaked some havoc in that stupid gothic bar together! I think Guyver may know more about the whereabouts of this guy, as those two were (or still are?) TNI... Well, I am still not Mari vd Broek, but Marius (Akuma) - as someone pointed out. Kudos! - And I still can be found at seedy gothic bars. Quite a lot actually. I am quite active running one of the biggest Goff messageboards in the Benelux. (I dare to say: The Largest) - So, come to a Seedy bar (I'd recomend Legendz in Amsterdam) and you will probably find me there moping and complaining that a moonsound sounds better then most stuff they play. And it does. I still love it! Maybe I have the Escargoth on file somewheres. But a miniversion can be seen here:

That's the one Awesome

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Actually on other platforms (CPC, Spectrum) a lot of those old tape games have been made "abandonware" by their publishers. Perhaps it also applies to the MSX versions. It could be worth investigating in that direction. I REALLY doubt Activision is planning to make a big come back anytime soon on the 8Bits scene trying to make money out of Power Drift tapes, MSX version

If you think the fact that MSX was not too appreciated computer in the eighties, and spectrums and commodore 64 ruled the (every) land, so spectrums and commodores sold better, so there are MUCH MORE audience for spectrum and commodore 21st century re-publishing.

I know, everything impossible can be possible, but still I think that when you think it, that many 21st century bosses of eighties software companies (or their new owners) probably are people who are grown playing nintendos and megadrives and later saturns and playstations and xboxes, if some of their workers come to their office saying,

guy: "Good Morning SIR, how about publishing again some MSX games which were published in 1985-1989 by certain software company which we own now ...? SIR?"

*that guy shows pictures of spectrum to MSX translations to his boss who was just playing with xbox and gamecube in his office*

boss: "These look like pure shit to me. That platform, what you called it? MGS?"

guy: "MSX, SIR!"

boss: "never heard of... *shakes his head* was it hugely popular then? My dad had commodore 64, simple machine, but dad said kids liked it back then... was it as popular as commodore 64?"

guy: "errrr...... no, SIR. It was actually only somewhat liked in only some european countries...."

boss: "And you are supposing I give my money to publish such shit to platform I am never heard of, to platform no-one liked twenty-years ago.....?!?!??!"

guy: "Ye...NO, SIR!"

boss: "So, don´t you have any REAL work to do? Shut the door when you go."

guy: "Yes, SIR......"

*boss continues his game on xbox and guy walks away and quietly shuts the door behind him*


I can understand, if companies like to re-publish spectrum and 64 games because they sold well in 80s and I can understand Konami and some other japanese companies publish their stuff in japan... but it´s hard to believe european companies will like to start publishing speccy translations to obsolete msx.... which never was as popular as mighty commodore 64 and as great sinclair spectrum.