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new poll/challange idea: a code-a-game-in-MSX1BASIC compo ! Just like in the old MCM days.. rules: * no basic/asm hybride.. the program flow should be done in pure basic. * the only asm you are allowed to have is a music-player * you are however allowed to put gfx/sound/maps in data lines * should run on an msx1 * no KUN or whatever compiler yes? suggestions?

This one could be cool!.

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new poll/challange idea: a code-a-game-in-MSX1BASIC compo ! Just like in the old MCM days.. rules: * no basic/asm hybride.. the program flow should be done in pure basic. * the only asm you are allowed to have is a music-player * you are however allowed to put gfx/sound/maps in data lines * should run on an msx1 * no KUN or whatever compiler yes? suggestions?

If you say to use no asm at all, then you should do the music player in basic too... You should be strict with that rule then. Otherwise people can still add some of the gameplay or something in asm with the music-player. I know you'd be restricted to PSG, MSX-MUSIC or MSX-AUDIO BASIC (which is the Panasonic MSX-AUDIO only) then, but it is possible.

The point is that you can perfectly make a game in basic.. but it always lacks music if you don't use that tiny bit of asm..

Or use well-timed PLAY statements.

Or use a looped sample hehe

Timed PLAY statements only work in MSX-MUSIC BASIC with CALL BGM(1).
In normal MSX-BASIC it's impossible to do with PLAY, or you will get a really, really unstable game speed.

What you CAN do in normal MSX-BASIC, and I have done, is use SOUND

Ofcourse, this counts for all methods, always on an INTERVAL routine.

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Or use a looped sample hehe

That's what Delta Soft did with their Mega Demos

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What you CAN do in normal MSX-BASIC, and I have done, is use SOUND Ofcourse, this counts for all methods, always on an INTERVAL routine.

Or CALL AUDREG for both MSX-MUSIC and MSX-AUDIO BASIC.

And indeed the INTERVAL routine combined with that was what I had in mind as well when I kinda objected to the asm-type music replayer.

CALL AUDREG is quite useless for this purpose if you can just use CALL BGM(1)
Also I think it's slower than SOUND, because it has to go through the CALL handler also...

Or use print chr$(7) if 'sound' is to much

Two very interesting polls should be made on MRC, with an additionnal discussion in the forums :

1 - Which is your preferred MRC moderator ?

In another words, the one that has more qualities than defaults and that can be objective when applying the MRC policies ; I think that he must also tolerate that the users critizise him

2 - Should GuyveR800 be completely reintegrated as MRC user with access to the news, the forums, allowed to post messages and reactions ?

Actually, I don't accept that you, the MRC team, have banished him (he can't even read the news without using an anonymous proxy).

This is one of the best MSX programmeurs, with a high knowledge about MSX and that can always give useful tips to people that want to understand the MSX system and program on it.

You, the MRC team, you have forgotten one thing : we are in democracy, not in a dictature. The best that you could do is to organise this poll !

Don't delete this post ... otherwhise, it will be published on other MSX forums ! You are warned !

Hmm... when someone tells me not to delete something 'or else' I must admit it becomes very difficult for me to resist the urge tho... Be advised, if this thing does disappear into the void it was probably me

And yes, it is a democracy you live in... You're free to choose which site you visit

Do you have noticed that there are less visitors and less posts since you have banished one of the best MSX programmeurs ?

I don't think that it was a good idea ! That's democracy indeed : less visitors for MRC !

mars2000you: I don't see which posts you are counting, but I did not see any decrease in newsposts, posts on the forums nor the amount of visitors, neither do I see any point in starting the polls you suggested. Do you really think that by holding those polls, or even by bringing this topic up, that you are actually helping in finding a solution? It looks more like you're set out to 'stir up' things with warnings like 'we are in democracy, not in a dictature.[...] Don't delete this post ... otherwise, it will be published on other MSX forums ! You are warned !'....

The MRC is a website about MSX that gives everybody who wants to a voice by allowing them to sign up as a member and then post on our forums or reactions to our newsposts, photoshoots and articles. They can say whatever they want as long as they live up to the MRC policies, which can easily be brought down to two basic rules which are, essentially, part of common sense and 'netiquette' anyway:

No flames
No warez

The least we can expect from our members is not to endanger the future of the website (warez) or to spoil the usually great atmosphere on our forums (flames). That's all there is to it. There is nothing 'big' behind it. Just have a look around in our forums at all the opinions that are expressed here. Take a look at the sometimes very heated discussions in which we did (and do) not moderate at all. In fact, apart from a few warez no moderation whatsoever has been necessary on the MRC for weeks, if not months. The fact that we removed a message and banned one of our users might give an indication that this user was going a whole lot further than 'just criticizing/expressing his opinion', don't you think?

Please, once again, stop taking MRC more seriously than necessary. I thought we had had it with the conspiracy theories by now. I don't understand that even after 10 years of serving the MSX community as objectively as possible (almost 5 years of which as a dynamic site with forums et al), some people are persuaded into these negative thoughts about the MRC so easily. MRC is a hobby website from a bunch of MSX freaks who like to offer and maintain an MSX news and community platform. Nothing more, nothing less. We have only one motivation: 'We love MSX'. This is what we, mere MSX freaks, can offer the MSX community. We hope you like it, but if you don't we are very sorry. Perhaps there's another site where you feel more at home.

Like virtually any community website we have a policy: no warez, no flames. It's really not that hard. Cross those lines and you'll be warned. Go way out of line and you might even risk a ban. GuyveR800 was -indeed- recently banned from the MRC and that ban was supported by all the MRC admins. Why? Because he was -way- out of line. With banning GuyveR800 we don't say anything negative about his coding skills or about the help he is providing to people in the MSX community. We -are- however giving a clear signal that there is certain behavior that we don't tolerate on the MRC. Not from newbies, and not from one of our most active users. Why? Because this website is about MSX, reporting about and stimulating the activities of the MSX community and not about smashing each others heads in. I personally don't see how the MSX Community could ever benefit from that. Can you?

Ok, it's really late now and I'm not completely sober, but I'll be frank. This year several things have happened that really made me wonder whether or not I wanted to continue with the MRC. I have spent an awful lot of time and money in the MRC, giving the best I can all the time (like I'm sure all other MRC team members are doing as well) and about 99,99% of the 'feedback' we get is mud in the face. Unfounded insinuations and accusations. People trying to bend (or search big, evil things behind) some very simple and understandable rules. People putting loads of pressure on the MRC in an attempt to force their will on us. It even got to a point where people (yup, more than one, but separate from each other) threatened to sue the MRC foundation. Basic reason for doing that: they did not like what MRC was doing for a complete 100%. As I am only human (really!) this stuff gets to me. It kept me awake at nights (gosh, look at the time), it was on my mind during work and school, it made me moody when I was visiting friends. It did lots of things to me a hobby, which - once again - both MSX and MRC are, should not do. For a short while it was no fun at all for me to maintain the MRC. Things had to change.

You might remember the day I posted about 100 on-topic posts in old, recent and new forum threads in the MRC forums. I did that for a reason: proving that a lot of good things are happening on the MRC. Showing that, unlike some people are trying to make others believe, the vast majority of the posts on the MRC forums is about MSX. Letting myself and MRC visitors express opinions that proved the 'conspiracy theory people' wrong. Essentially, I wanted to see if others would pick that up, which -fortunately- they did. It showed more people thought exactly the same. Enough pointless discussions and personal fights: lets use the MRC forums for what they are made for. MSX! I will not post 100 posts at this hour, but I will repeat the line which I posted before I started my 'posting spree'.

Can we, please, start talking about MSX again? Thank you.