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Mr. C. Sinclair and MSX

enribar
msx lover
Berichten: 114
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 19:09   
Latok
msx master
Berichten: 1727
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 19:16   
Sir Clive already said it in 1984! No need for a cassette port
wolf_

msx legend
Berichten: 4713
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 19:28   
and 19 years later, what have we learnt?
poke-1,170
msx professional
Berichten: 864
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 20:04   
do take into account guys that not every country in europe understands english as well as Holland

poke-1,170
msx professional
Berichten: 864
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 20:05   
also, the man made the beautiful yet disastrous c5 bike

boblet
msx user
Berichten: 47
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 20:32   
what a poo head
his cheaply made efforts made using second grade parts held back the use of better systems
msd
msx professional
Berichten: 612
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 20:44   
Sinclair more powerfull than msx? yeah right
ro
msx guru
Berichten: 2329
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 21:08   
yup, it's 2 or 3 times faster as the MSX machines.
That's because the MSX was build on 5 years old technologie.. don't you understand what the man said!?

What a goofhead, whahah. It's funny how he tries to undermine the MSX in contrast to the Speccy instead of teling what a great machine the speccy is. Well it's fun to watch anyway, both computer types are somewhat (ahum, like hugely) outdated. so sod of and go fetch me a burger will ya, mister C.
PingPong
msx professional
Berichten: 988
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 21:21   
What are you saying people? MSX less powerfull of speccy? Even a msx1 could to better than the last spectrum.

Compare gfx: MSX had 256x192 16 color gfx. Only the last spectrum matched this capability (when amstrad buy it from sinclair) otherwise colourclash was more in speccy. Speccy does not have nearly hw sprite, nor pattern mode
Compare sound capabilities: Again matched only on last spectrum. Original speccy had a buzzer bip bip like pc.
Compare the processor: the same. roungly at the same speed (msx for M1 wait states, speccy for contended memory)
Compare the memory management: Speccy does allow a max of 48K. Later 128K. The mapping system of msx1 was better.

What you can do on spectrum 48k you always are able to do on msx1 as most sloppy games convertions prove.


poke-1,170
msx professional
Berichten: 864
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 21:33   
yup, but the spectrum plus has better PSG music then the msx
also a cooler logo, clive has a funnier head, and there are no
msx bicycles designed sadly
ro
msx guru
Berichten: 2329
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 21:37   
funny, that gay refery shows up EVERY FREAKING WHERE!

http://video.google.it/videoplay?docid=-8316595908307302795&q=msx

PingPong
msx professional
Berichten: 988
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 21:55   
Quote:

yup, but the spectrum plus has better PSG music then the msx


PSG is PSG everywhere it's abilities are the same on every computer board is mounted.

poke-1,170
msx professional
Berichten: 864
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 22:25   
true... but what use is it without decent trackers ?
or maybe the msx scene lacks decent musicians then ...

AuroraMSX

msx master
Berichten: 1249
Geplaatst: 27 Juli 2006, 22:37   
Quote:

Sir Clive already said it in 1984! No need for a cassette port

Right, let's have that OCM with an up-to-date and state of the art micro-drive, then
pitpan
msx master
Berichten: 1379
Geplaatst: 28 Juli 2006, 00:00   
Maybe you thoughts about Sinclair vs MSX have left out of the equation a tiny element: Spectrum has got more programs available. Therefore, considering a computer as a combination of hardware+software+users&support, Sinclair computers are far superior to MSX.

If you stick to hardware, then I should agree: MSX hardware is somewhat better than Spectrum is, but on the other hand, ZX has a major advantage when compared to MSX - speed on data transference to video RAM, because VRAM is directly accesible by the Z80. Of course, this is also a drawback: less VRAM available, less RAM available.

As you can see, there's not only a valid answer. But MSX is and will be my favourite computer system ever.
 
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