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The first MSX related spyware?

mars2000you
msx master
Berichten: 1723
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 12:58   
At the moment, nothing is decided in the blueMSX team on this matter.

From my personal point of view, if you don't trust the system (and it has nothing with MRC or another server, it's a question of principe, of ethic), in the case that this system should be added to your favorite emulator (blueMSX or openMSX), I should recommend the maximum security position, what means that the users should run only the versions of the emulator without this feature (and without new improvements of the emulator). In some way, adding this feature could mean for both emulators the end of their development.
boblet
msx user
Berichten: 47
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:01   
in that case wolf, I want kaillera support in openmsx and the obligation to order pizza using my credit card builtin whether I need a pizza or not


J-War
msx freak
Berichten: 221
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:08   
D00DZ, i am actualy running ! Naked of course...
What if that evil gamestats of yours send the content of my c:\gaypr0n\BobletWithWolf_\ to the MRC ??
boblet
msx user
Berichten: 47
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:14   
as long as my amoeba's are ok, that's all that matters
J-War
msx freak
Berichten: 221
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:16   
Phew
wolf_

msx legend
Berichten: 4713
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:23   
d00ds, it was all my idea, I wanted stats like 'best game of 86 'best game of 87' etc. etc.

Now, accuse me instead .. oh wait, I'm not teh evil MRC ^_^


AuroraMSX

msx master
Berichten: 1248
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:24   
Wolf_:
Quote:

( * grabs the chair, the chips, the coke )



/me pulls another chair, a beer, and fires up the BBQ...
Frankfurter, any one?
Huey
msx professional
Berichten: 586
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:46   
Hahaha! What's all that fuss about?

I doubt that the stats will be any good. It will show us what we already know. We play a lot of konami's You will never ever get correct input for those stats. Posting informating from the emulator to a server is an akward idea.

A better feature would be sending information only one way WITHOUT storing request on the server (e.g. generation MSX):
Get (save) info on your own pc from a server using the hashcode (developer, year, good/bad dump, cheats, screenshots etc.)

Best would be to implement such features in, let's say, catapult. Not in an emulator.

Oh yeah and for the piracy part. Do you really think that any justice will do anything against piracy on MSX? Would they really invest tons and tons of Euro's on something that has no comercial value?
They only take on resellers/distributors with big amounts of comercial interesting software (like current movies, curent gen console games).

Trust me; I work at a dutch justice department.






boblet
msx user
Berichten: 47
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:46   
wofl is evil too, there's scientific evidence that may be entirely made up


*edit* Trust me; I work at a dutch justice department
brain... cannot.. compute.. statement.....

wolf_

msx legend
Berichten: 4713
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:50   
dudelet, all the trouble you take for the sake of offtopicness ..
boblet
msx user
Berichten: 47
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 13:54   
but the topic is about evil!!!

viejo_archivero
msx addict
Berichten: 440
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 14:00   
I'm a convinced blueMSX user, and today I have even more reasons not to change to openMSX. I hope the blueMSX team decides not to add that feature in their fantastic emulator!.
snout

msx legend
Berichten: 4991
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 14:14   
I don't see any reason to be so theatrical. m2k - the end of blueMSX/openMSX due to a new feature? Come on! It's like the people in the 1800s protesting against the railways, stating the world would certainly come to an end if people'd travel that fast all the time.

The people who contributed to the discussion so far tend to be the most critical about privacy-related issues, so I don't think the oppinions (hi beef!) expressed so far reflect the opinion of the MSX community, but if there are people conspiracy-minded enough to think that even disabling gamestats (read: not enabling gamestats) won't get the job done, I'm sure both the openMSX and blueMSX team would not mind compiling a version with and a version without gamestats of their emulators.

What I'd like to ask you is to first properly read my initial proposal and arguments stated in this thread before roughly reading a word or two, primarily focusing on the word 'spyware' (eek! scary!) and shouting some standard remarks. If you can't read beyond the suggestive nature of BiFi's initial post, this discussion is bound to get nowhere.
boblet
msx user
Berichten: 47
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 14:22   
One has to be careful making points using analogies.

I did read it "properly", and I questioned it properly without paranoical supposition(no doubt that'll come later). As the thread has only been up for a short time not everyone will have seen it yet, let it run a week and see what the consensus is, folk present have made their views clear, there's a lot of other members on the site, if they care one way or the other they'll comment or not, I won't say anything else in this topic as I've already outlined my perspective.



manuel
msx guru
Berichten: 3447
Geplaatst: 31 Juli 2006, 14:36   
Quote:

I'm a convinced blueMSX user, and today I have even more reasons not to change to openMSX. I hope the blueMSX team decides not to add that feature in their fantastic emulator!.



Can you explain to me what those reasons are, exactly? And why you hope this feature will not be implemented in blueMSX?

And... wait a minute: you found more reasons not to use openMSX, just because we are discussing an idea for a feature??? Wow...
 
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