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"Aleste 520EX" - does anyone ever heard about this computer??

poke-1,170
msx professional
Berichten: 893
Geplaatst: 11 Augustus 2006, 02:36   
interesting... did any tunes survive on it ? did many people make music on the aleste ?
Any special demos ever made for it ?

Valeriya
msx user
Berichten: 45
Geplaatst: 11 Augustus 2006, 09:42   
Quote:

interesting... did any tunes survive on it ? did many people make music on the aleste ?
Any special demos ever made for it ?



Not really :|
cax

msx professional
Berichten: 1021
Geplaatst: 21 December 2006, 20:34   
I've just found this thread.
I am amazed !

This story proves the fact that in USSR people were in love with MSX, that's why all these cloning attempts were made.

But where all those MSX lovers now ?
I see no more then one new user in half a year in ru.msx.org forums !
And what happened to Yamaha MSX machines from schools and universities ?

Shiru
msx lover
Berichten: 115
Geplaatst: 28 December 2006, 20:58   
Quote:

interesting... did any tunes survive on it ? did many people make music on the aleste ?


As said in ru.wiki, only some tens of units was produced, production proceed just one year. So it's very unknown computer in Russia. I heard about Aleste first time in this year, when article in ru.wiki was published (note: my hobby is old computers history, especially russian stuff).

Btw, in Russia was series of school-oriented computers, made close to MSX standarts (developed as alternative for imported Yamaha MSX'es). It's PK80xx computers - PK8000 (Sura, Vesta, and possibly some other names) is home model, and PK8010/PK8020 (very different in schematic from PK8000) is school models. This computers almost incompatible with original MSX software, because they used 8080 cpu instead of Z80, and have many other differences (as well as similarities). But they almost compatible with MSX-Basic programs
slava
msx friend
Berichten: 8
Geplaatst: 17 Februari 2007, 17:22   
Ïîäñêàæèòå êàê íà êîìïüþòåðå ALESTE 520EX Çàãðóçèòü MSX2 Äèñê à òî òîëè íå òîò çàãðóç÷èê èëè ÷òî òî åù¸ ?
poke-1,170
msx professional
Berichten: 893
Geplaatst: 17 Februari 2007, 20:12   
yeah, maybe !!!
AuroraMSX

msx master
Berichten: 1260
Geplaatst: 17 Februari 2007, 20:32   
Quote:

Ïîäñêàæèòå êàê íà êîìïüþòåðå ALESTE 520EX Çàãðóçèòü MSX2 Äèñê à òî òîëè íå òîò çàãðóç÷èê èëè ÷òî òî åù¸ ?

Wie bitte?
dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1339
Geplaatst: 17 Februari 2007, 20:59   
Quote:

Ïîäñêàæèòå êàê íà êîìïüþòåðå ALESTE 520EX Çàãðóçèòü MSX2 Äèñê à òî òîëè íå òîò çàãðóç÷èê èëè ÷òî òî åù¸ ?


I think so but I'm not entirely sure. Someone else that knows?
cax

msx professional
Berichten: 1021
Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2007, 17:46   
Quote:


Podskazhite kak na komp'yutere ALESTE 520EX zagruzit' MSX2 disk a to toli ne tot zagruzchik ili chto-to eshe ?



Translation:

Please tell me how can I boot from MSX2 floppy on ALESTE 520EX, maybe wrong loader is the problem or something else ?

Advice:

Dear slava, this is an English part of msx.org, and posting in Russian is a problem, as you see: cyrillic symbols are processed wrong, and also nobody can understand you.
Please ask here in English or use Russian forum at http://ru.msx.org
If there is a need to ask a question in English, you can ask me to do it for you.

And yes, I think the loader in the boot sector can be the problem, but I never saw nor used ALESTE computer in my life, so I am not sure about it.
Do you own ALESTE yourself ?
dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1339
Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2007, 18:08   
Cool cax. What character encoding is it, russian? I didn't recognize it.

Btw, do you know any good text editors that can convert texts like this. I use Maruo but It didn't get it to convert this text.

Edit: Maruo actually did convert it nicely to cryllic letters and babelfish tanslates it to:

Prompt as on computer ALESTE 520EX to load MSX2 disk and first roofings not that charger or that that yeshch

manuel
online
msx guru
Berichten: 3530
Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2007, 18:41   
Using gvim:
Яюфёърцшђх ъръ эр ъюьяќўђх№х ALESTE 520EX Чру№ѓчшђќ MSX2 Фшёъ р ђю ђюыш эх ђюђ чру№ѓчїшъ шыш їђю ђю хљИ ?

But I suppose that will display bad as well.
Why is MRC using ISO-8859-1 encoding? UTF-8 seems a much better idea.
Anyway, I set gvim to ISO-8859-1, pasted the text, set it to cyrillic and then I got the above text. Babelfish refuses to translate it, though
So, maybe it's just converted wrong.

dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1339
Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2007, 19:23   
@manuel: I compared your conversion with the one I got from Maruo and no characters are the same. Once a long time ago I actually was fluent in the cyrillic alfabet (I was learning serbocroatian) and your conversion doesn't look that familiar. Maybe cax or some other russian speaking person can tell what is different.

Fyi: this is the conversion from Maruo:
Подскажите как на компьютере ALESTE 520EX Загрузить MSX2 Диск а то толи не тот загрузчик или что то ещё ?
dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1339
Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2007, 19:43   
And the romanization of the sentence would be something like (starting to get really off topic now):

Podskažite kak na komp'jutere ALESTE 520EX Zagruzit' MSX2 Dzsk a to toli ne tot zagruzcik ili čto to ešë ?
cax

msx professional
Berichten: 1021
Geplaatst: 18 Februari 2007, 19:47   
Exactly, dvik. I already posted the transliteration in my previous message though.

In order to read the broken cyrillics I just opened this page with IE and looked at "View Source".

Shiru
msx lover
Berichten: 115
Geplaatst: 19 Februari 2007, 00:15   
I think, Slava can't read english, because words 'only some tens of units was produced' answers to his question well enough.
 
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