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sunrise
msx professional
Berichten: 650
Geplaatst: 02 September 2006, 22:29   
Tim ,we havenot stand still, software of the ide has been upgraded many times since you left
timbr
msx novice
Berichten: 17
Geplaatst: 03 September 2006, 13:08   
Quote:

Tim ,we havenot stand still, software of the ide has been upgraded many times since you left


I recently tried BlueMSX with sunrise IDE emulation and IDEFDISK v3.1 (latest?).
I was quite disappointed because:
- FAT16 still does not work out of the box. Because everything (including MSX-DOS2 core) is running from flash these days, and thus can be updated, I see no reason why this is not possible.
- FDISK does not work intuetively.
- Took a while to figure out that I needed to use option '/fat16'. No '/h' or '/?' to help you. Why not always support FAT16 and ask user what partition type to add?
- I was not able to format a single partition without loosing everything on other partitions.
- 'format' does not work from msx-dos2 and basic.

sunrise
msx professional
Berichten: 650
Geplaatst: 03 September 2006, 13:28   
First point -correct because you still need the first partition as a fat12 , but implemented it should agreed !
But that's for Jon. Plus the fact that someone offered the adaption of EP for IDE , never heard again !
Second point -explain that a little more please
Third point - If you read the help file first, and many explanantion is also done by Anne de Raad on this point (Fat16)
But certainly a complete manual is still on my personal to do list. Most extreme work since tnere are many adaptors e.g. one for serial ata to ATA .all cf-adaptors .
Four - I think that's your mistake !
five -What do you want to format - a floppy you without partion table and HD/LS120/ZIP always A,W,I, and dos2 and command to A;


But returning to an old question from me to you ,do you have the source of FDE and are you prepared to sent it ?
Thanks for the feedback, I will forward it to Jon !


But I check it another time since fat16 isnot supported by the emulator, cAN thus be the emulation as well !
timbr
msx novice
Berichten: 17
Geplaatst: 03 September 2006, 18:07   
2. Just my opinion.
4. I did not find the option to format just one partition, only to format all partitions (I).
5. On a MSX-DOS2 command prompt, 'format a:' should format the first partition, 'format b:' the second etc. (on my old Novaxis SCSI this works fine). Now I get a '*** Invalid MSX-DOS call' message. I guess because it is not implemented in the firmware.

About FDE. Unfortunately I lost the source code because my old SCSI harddisk crashed some time ago. I know that someone disassembled it and patched it for FAT16. I'm trying to get it from this person, but no luck till now. If I succeed I will mail it to you.
manuel
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msx guru
Berichten: 3531
Geplaatst: 03 September 2006, 18:10   
I'm not sure what Novaxis you have, but on mine you can't use the format command in MSX-DOS to format partitions.
Should format A: format the first partitoin, or the partition currently mapped to drive A:?
[D-Tail]

msx guru
Berichten: 3019
Geplaatst: 03 September 2006, 21:04   
timbr: you can format partitions with FDISK310: disable the partitions you DON'T want to format, and all enabled partitions can be formatted with [I]nitialize all enabled partitions. It's a long way around, but it does work
sunrise
msx professional
Berichten: 650
Geplaatst: 03 September 2006, 22:56   
Well Tim is/was used to Novaxis than it's a change to get use to ide although he didnot missed the first developed serie I am certain of.
As said the emulator can play also a role, since I have never seen the under 5 optioned failure
MicroTech
msx lover
Berichten: 122
Geplaatst: 04 September 2006, 12:57   
My VHDL wishlist:

- extended CPU mode supporting:
- at least 32 32bits registers, all general purpouse
- multiple hardware breakpoint support
- 32bits multiply/divide instruction
- linear ram addressing
- DMA: CPU, VDP and any other device should be able
to access ram independently so they could "snoop"
commands/data pipelines to/from each other
- VDP should support V9990 capabilities with hw triangle rasterizer and zbuffer
- OPL4 should be "integrated"

My software wishlist:

- a new C/ASM compiler to support the new cpu capabilities
- fully integrated development/debugging toolkit

... dreaming can be nice

[D-Tail]

msx guru
Berichten: 3019
Geplaatst: 04 September 2006, 21:33   
Maybe you can put 10 OCM in parallel?
MicroTech
msx lover
Berichten: 122
Geplaatst: 14 September 2006, 17:08   
I've a new wishlist item which I didn't think before:
- a couple of new "official" games (e.g. from Konami or some "big name" software house)
which can give an idea of ocm capabilities.

IMHO this would produce a great "triple-effect":
- MSX is still considered by software developers
- any people with a ocm would buy both the games
- "normal" users still undecided would buy ocm 'cause it is "something more than a simple MSX2"



wolf_
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msx legend
Berichten: 4777
Geplaatst: 14 September 2006, 17:25   
hm.. I estimate that 5000 OCM's will be made.. if an optimistic 20% is interested in buying games, then their (gamecompany) market is 1000 games.. if they make 10$ profit per sold game, then that's $10000 .. from that $10000 you've to pay probably 2 programmers, 2 graphicians, a musician, and a teamleader/manager/director .. my guess is that they'll skip.
timbr
msx novice
Berichten: 17
Geplaatst: 18 September 2006, 12:44   
I'm quite disappointed. It turns out that even the EPCS4 will not be used. In other words, one of the most interesting feature of the OCM, the reprogrammable hardware, will only be usable when you buy an extra cable. And even when you do this, it isn't convenient to develop hardware.
This is really a missed opportunaty!
I think my first project with this OCM will be to develop a PCB with configurator that can be mounted as a piggy-back into the OCM, making convenient and risc-free development of new gateware for it, and also makes hot reconfiguring possible.
I'm sure this extension can be sold for less than $50 (which is the price of the cable).
To make this extension interesting for everyone, I think that a C64/SEGA master system game loader to illustrate the hot-reconfigure feature would be nice.

The only problem is finding the time to do it...
manuel
online
msx guru
Berichten: 3531
Geplaatst: 18 September 2006, 16:43   
Um, you can reprogram the hardware without the cable. But if that means you can't run MSX-DOS anymore, there's no way to restore it without a cable.
arnold_m
msx lover
Berichten: 85
Geplaatst: 18 September 2006, 19:47   
If you start experimenting with VHDL yourself, then it is quite likely that some day you'll produce a bug that prevents mdx-dos from running.
And if it has to run msx-dos that excludes some interesting applications like using the OCM as a cartridge rather than as a computer.
I think the OCM is not complete without a means to replace `malfunctioning' gateware.

Wishlist item: an edge connector that allows to plug the OCM into an MSX.
manuel
online
msx guru
Berichten: 3531
Geplaatst: 18 September 2006, 20:29   
Or just use the cable and your PC...
 
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