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What have you in mind to do with OCM ?

Niles
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 21 November 2006, 23:44   
Just for curiosity... what will you do when OCM arrives to your home?
pitpan
msx master
Berichten: 1368
Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 00:13   
The same that I do with my real MSX: spend senseless and remorseless my limited spare time.
wolf_

msx legend
Berichten: 4655
Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 00:33   
Keep one generic boosted MSX2 config for MWave/Meridian etc. Keep another config for experimenting with screenmodes.. (as far as I'm able to do so)
Ivan

msx professional
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Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 00:38   
I will insert Space Manbow to see how it works Then I will use the SD card slot, never owned a MegaSCSI
MicroTech
msx lover
Berichten: 109
Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 10:23   
- play Xevious/Vampire Killer/Salamander
- try old games with a boosted MSX2 config
- speed up E3D with VHDL add-on (as far as I'll able to)

Niles
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 11:45   
Quote:

Keep one generic boosted MSX2 config for MWave/Meridian etc. Keep another config for experimenting with screenmodes.. (as far as I'm able to do so)



I can't understand at all this point... if I'm not wrong, the OCM comes with the FPGA configured as a MSX2 by default, then, you could reprogramming the FPGA to another configs? (e.g. boosted configs, MSX2+ config, tMSX config... other Z80 based machines as ZX Spectrum or C64 configs too???)

Also, as far as I read here at MRC, it could be quite dangerous reprogramming FPGA, because you will need a special transfer cable very expensive to recover default config, it is true?
Ivan

msx professional
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Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 11:50   
That special cable is not expensive if you make it yourself.
wolf_

msx legend
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Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 11:54   
1: sure, as long as you know how to program things, and as long as there are enough gates, you can just scrap the whole MSX and try to make it an Amstrad, so you can run the CPC version of SymbOS ^_^ The thing I'm referring to is really to tweak things like screenmodes, they won't have to be compatible with any other computersystem, it's just my own screenmode orso.. my own computer so to say. But most probably I won't be VHDL'ing if it's too tough, I'd prolly cooperate on other person's initiatives to do the same.. Another nice thing I'd like to give a try it to create the uberl33t "soundcard" in VHDL.

2: Could be.. there are also cheap cables one can buy, but one needs to search for those. However, I think it's only a matter of time before someone bulk-buys those cheap cables and sells them for cheap on some MSX fair. Apart from that, you could ofcourse also simulate your new VHDL first. But idd, a supplied cable would've been nice.
Tanni
msx addict
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Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 13:36   
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Apart from that, you could ofcourse also simulate your new VHDL first.



Simulating a complex design will probably rather awkward, especially if it's a processor which needs some MC to be executed until the error situation occures. So you first have to provide some MC instructions as stimuli to set up the registers. You also must know what signals to view. There are lots of them inside a processor or a SOC (System On a Chip). Maybe you're going to view the wrong ones, i.e. signals where everything is ok, but not the ones where the error is to be found. Simulating is ok when you're going up right form the scratch, first simulating the components and after you're realized that it's all ok, putting them together and again simulating the new component derived from the already working ones. But, to my mind, it will be very hard to find errors in an already existing huge VHDL design written by someone else.
[D-Tail]

msx guru
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Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 17:52   
What I am going to do with it? Smash it and see your people's reactions!

That is, if I'm going to have one...
wolf_

msx legend
Berichten: 4655
Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 18:04   
I think you can borrow Snout's OCM for that.. it's only a mere prototype..
[D-Tail]

msx guru
Berichten: 2994
Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 21:06   
That's just why I need The Real Thang[tm]
djh1697
msx professional
Berichten: 540
Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 23:07   
I will use it to play games! Just as I do with my MSX at the moment. I don't know about doing programming, but who knows? I dont know how to plug my cassette recorder or my MSX printer though? Any ideas? A USB to parallel lead?
Niles
msx professional
Berichten: 519
Geplaatst: 22 November 2006, 23:37   
Will work a USB mouse on it? (Is there any *working* GUI for this default MSX2 config?)
wolf_

msx legend
Berichten: 4655
Geplaatst: 23 November 2006, 00:47   
ps/2 keyboards/mice will work, afaik. But regarding the GUI .. atm it *is* an MSX2 .. so you can run what there is to run: SymbOS. Other GUIs didn't mature enough to be called 'practical'.
 
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