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What have you in mind to do with OCM ?

Leo
msx freak
Berichten: 212
Geplaatst: 04 December 2006, 20:36   
Does anyone knows if the vhdl source code would be available for download somewhere ?
I believe it will be included in the CD that comes with OCM , but would it also be available for free?

Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Berichten: 2261
Geplaatst: 04 December 2006, 20:39   
dunno, I think it's opensource...
snout

msx legend
Berichten: 4991
Geplaatst: 04 December 2006, 23:19   
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as the amount of OCM available on pre-order almost completely sold out



Does that mean there maybe some OCM's left ??

Unfortunately it does not. We have some potentially double orders (and a few that have not been confirmed yet), but that might only free up a few. The 'waiting line' currently is longer than the amount of OCMs potentially available.
shaiwa
msx addict
Berichten: 287
Geplaatst: 05 December 2006, 11:14   
To bad i didn't have funds to buy one... and now on Bazix site the news that there are no plans for a second batch

Hope for an OCM2 ??

KNM
msx user
Berichten: 52
Geplaatst: 05 December 2006, 11:33   
I wanted an MSX1 with ADVRAM,and improved scrolls - horizontal specially -.And TWO PSG´s at the same time with SCC
madcrow
msx lover
Berichten: 68
Geplaatst: 05 December 2006, 19:04   
Is the OCM a Straight-2 or a 2+? Either way, I would use it as the base of a kickass SymbOS "workstation". With it's powerful 10 MHz mode (and it's in-code, but commented-out support for 20 MHz), MSX2 video and music chip support and more, the OCM is the most powerful 8-bit computer ever built and in combination with SymbOS could easily provide a low-cost/high-performance computer system for the third world. At the various least, I suspect that it will replace the CPC-TREX as the leading-edge platform for SymbOS development.
dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1302
Geplaatst: 05 December 2006, 19:18   
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the OCM is the most powerful 8-bit computer ever built


Well its _emulating_ an 8-bit computer. My PC can do the same and even faster I'm pretty sure SymbOS will kick ass on 10MHz though. It already rock on 3MHz
Leo
msx freak
Berichten: 212
Geplaatst: 05 December 2006, 22:48   
Yes , It has been told this code would be open source, but it is unclear if the CD will
contain the msx source code in VHDL or VHDL examples .
And i was announced that the code could be freely modified and re-distributed , like with a GPL licence.
Then I wonder why it is not downloadable from the ascii or bazix site ?
Grauw
msx professional
Berichten: 1002
Geplaatst: 06 December 2006, 11:09   
The OCM is currently an MSX2, I haven’t seen any MSX2+ features.

The CD contains the MSX source code in VHDL. I don’t know the actual license of the code yet (my Japanese isn’t so good), but I’m sure that’ll be cleared up in the future. I didn’t see any ROM files among the source code, so I don’t know where they are stored.

One thing I found is that it does have an RTC implementation, but it does not remember the settings after turning it off (it does when only resetting). Functionality to store the RTC settings to the SD card would be useful, or I might try to modify the defaults.
Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Berichten: 2261
Geplaatst: 06 December 2006, 13:51   
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One thing I found is that it does have an RTC implementation, but it does not remember the settings after turning it off (it does when only resetting). Functionality to store the RTC settings to the SD card would be useful, or I might try to modify the defaults.

That's a bummer... We'd definately need a fix for that. I'm not SCREEN0|WIDTH80|COLOR15,0,0|SETSCREENing every time I want to b00t my OCM... Does it at least have an internal clock tho?
cax

msx professional
Berichten: 1009
Geplaatst: 06 December 2006, 15:34   
If I understand it right, Grauw is the lucky person who already got his OCM ?
Let's start some other topic where OCM owners can post about their findings and answer the questions from those who want to ask !
Grauw
msx professional
Berichten: 1002
Geplaatst: 06 December 2006, 16:30   
I posted about it on my blog:

http://www.grauw.nl/blog/entry/385

If you want, you can ask me questions there .


~Grauw
Prodatron
msx master
Berichten: 1088
Geplaatst: 06 December 2006, 18:39   
Quote:

I would use it as the base of a kickass SymbOS "workstation". With it's powerful 10 MHz mode (and it's in-code, but commented-out support for 20 MHz), MSX2 video and music chip support and more, the OCM is the most powerful 8-bit computer ever built and in combination with SymbOS could easily provide a low-cost/high-performance computer system for the third world. At the various least, I suspect that it will replace the CPC-TREX as the leading-edge platform for SymbOS development.



The TurboR already replaced the CPC-TREX as the most powerful SymbOS platform
What I would like to know is, if in the 10MHz/20MHz modes the speed of the VDP is also been increased??
Very interesting, as only in this case the OCM would be faster than the TurboR.
Alex
msx lover
Berichten: 90
Geplaatst: 06 December 2006, 22:27   
Quote:


The TurboR already replaced the CPC-TREX as the most powerful SymbOS platform
What I would like to know is, if in the 10MHz/20MHz modes the speed of the VDP is also been increased??
Very interesting, as only in this case the OCM would be faster than the TurboR.



In 10MHz Z80 mode, the VDP command speed is the same as in the Z80 3.57 MHz mode. The VDP command speed is independent from the Z80 speed.

However, the VDP command speed is currently approximately twice as fast in the OCM as in a real MSX. So it is still a nice improvement for SymbOS.

In an earlier version of the VHDL code, the VDP command engine was between 3 and 8 times as fast, depending on the command and the screen mode. However, this speed has been reduced for compatibility and stability reasons.

dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1302
Geplaatst: 06 December 2006, 23:59   
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However, the VDP command speed is currently approximately twice as fast in the OCM as in a real MSX.



I don't want to sound critical, but why doesn't the speed match the old MSX2. If the timing is off by this much, the OCM will be quite useless for MSX development (unless the developed SW is targeted towards OCM only). To make sw that works well on older MSXes, it sounds like the OCM is as bad or even worse than PC emus.

And I'm sure there will be compability issues with existing MSX sw as well because of this (although most sw doesn't rely too much on the command engine timing).

 
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