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WOOMB XAK GAME how to put on real msx??????

dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1303
Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 01:40   
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Haven't you been to school? If some teacher (probably math) told a class to shut up and work on their own, would the class obey that like some sweet angels?


When I was in first grade I liked to learn German because my mom is born Austrian. But my teacher at school said I wasn't allowed to write in German so I had to stop And I was an angel when I was a kid
FiXato
msx freak
Berichten: 239
Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 08:26   
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Of course, you can figure out how to extract the game and run it into your real MSX hardware. WOOMB indeed uses an emulator and encrypted ROM/DSK files. Decrypt the file and extract them: you'll be able to play it on your MSX normally. As long as you do not redistribute the game, I guess that it is OK, 'cause you have payed for the right to play that game, am I wrong?


In some countries the sole *act* of reverse engineering and decrypting can be illegal by itself
SaebaMSX
msx freak
Berichten: 245
Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 10:24   
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Actually, that's a rather big assumption. Any changes that were made to the original code may have left some compatibility problems. And with it only being meant for running in an emulator, such things could be left in without problems. And if you want to be really paranoid, you could wonder whether some incompatibilities were left in on purpose to make it fully dependent in this particular emulator.



Actually, coders involved in Woomb translations are really good MSX programmers (at least I think I read who they were somewhere) so I don't think they will do such thing. But yes, it could be done in that way, but it wouldn't be wise.

Anyway, good job from these Woomb dudes, because lack of time I did not buy these translations yet, but surely I will do it pretty soon. These translated manuals that Rieks showed me in Bussum two years ago definitely rock!!
Samor
msx professional
Berichten: 841
Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 10:29   
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Anyway, good job from these Woomb dudes, because lack of time I did not buy these translations yet, but surely I will do it pretty soon. These translated manuals that Rieks showed me in Bussum two years ago definitely rock!!



Yes, they're really awesome. Even little things that applied at the time of the original release (such as club memberships) are left in and explained.
pitpan
msx master
Berichten: 1368
Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 10:34   
Luckily enough, you can reverse-engineer anything as long as you don't make a profit / share the results. I can buy a game at Woomb, decrypt it and run it in my MSX. It is not illegal because no-one would be aware of this fact.
wolf_

msx legend
Berichten: 4663
Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 10:53   
So, you might be loyal enough to keep this reverse engineered version on your own HD, then this copy protection obviously wasn't made for you..
pitpan
msx master
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Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 11:00   
LOL
shaiwa
msx addict
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Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 11:08   
pitpan, we have to talk

pitpan
msx master
Berichten: 1368
Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 11:32   
The math teacher told me not to talk.

And my parents told me not to talk to strangers
dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1303
Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 15:44   
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And my parents told me not to talk to strangers


Hey pitpan, are you American?
Sd-Snatcher
msx freak
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Geplaatst: 15 Maart 2007, 16:24   
He is Spanish
JAPANRETRO
msx novice
Berichten: 24
Geplaatst: 16 Maart 2007, 09:51   
I bought this game and i have several real MSX ...I dont understand why i cant use my game in my Turbo-R that i payed a lot of money!!! I dont buy woob games anymore 'couse i dont think it is correct to sell an encrypted game that run only in a tiny window on my 32" lcd monitor....
Msx games are good games but play it in a 32" lcd at 1920x1080 resolution made them unplayable...
I am really disappointed and althought woob made a good conversion work they will dont sell many games 'couse emulation is for lazy guys...I like to use real hardware to play my retrogames and i think many msx fans like too...
Regards to all !
[D-Tail]

msx guru
Berichten: 2994
Geplaatst: 16 Maart 2007, 10:05   
japanretro: what is your point, exactly?

Isn't all you mentioned old news, which is perfectly explained in the 'woob' FAQ? Don't complain if you could have known this kind of stuff in advance.
shaiwa
msx addict
Berichten: 287
Geplaatst: 16 Maart 2007, 11:56   
JAPANRETRO, if you are no stranger to pitpan you can talk to him

Samor
msx professional
Berichten: 841
Geplaatst: 16 Maart 2007, 12:42   
Quote:

I bought this game and i have several real MSX ...I dont understand why i cant use my game in my Turbo-R that i payed a lot of money!!! I dont buy woob games anymore 'couse i dont think it is correct to sell an encrypted game that run only in a tiny window on my 32" lcd monitor....
Msx games are good games but play it in a 32" lcd at 1920x1080 resolution made them unplayable...
I am really disappointed and althought woob made a good conversion work they will dont sell many games 'couse emulation is for lazy guys...I like to use real hardware to play my retrogames and i think many msx fans like too...
Regards to all !



I thought it was/is a well known fact that they don't work on a real msx. The reasons why have been mentioned several times on this site as well.

By the way, the emulator has a full screen mode, so you don't have to play it in a tiny window.



 
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