I tend to agree with Manuel. We talk about how we accept other systems on a msx fair , but ask the other way around also.
Besides that MSX is still on the developping side. Except from ATARi I have seen little new , as we visited several retro fairs by now.
Madrid is simply special to the qualties of the splendid way rafa corrales manages the whole thing.

Of course ppl are still developing stuff here and there, but how often does that end-up on a fair these days? In the old days one made something for Tilburg or Zandvoort, those were the real deadlines. These days with internet one just releases something when it's done. And perhaps things won't get finished as the motivation to finish something on a random date is less strong than to finish something for one of the two major classic fairs.

Regarding the other way around, no problem, but I know *nothing* about CPC/Spec scene, do they have special CPC and Spec fairs (not just common retrogaming fairs eh, more like our own MSX fairs)?

I was more getting at the fact that for msx the development is higher. Bussum as well as Nijmegen are still the big deadlines nothing changed.
It is really a pity ball quest is already launched , it misses now a nice jacket. Look Ivan says something for Matra.
It would have been indeed the option. But the effect to do it is gone

Zilogfest sounds fun... Sort of like a middleground between the massive retro-gaming oriented "retro festivals" and the platform-specfic events. Of course, the problem with a Z80 fest is that's there's som nay Z80-based systems out there. Where would you draw the line: the TI-83/83+/84 and TI-85/86 calculator lines are Z80 based. The Sega Mega Drive/Genesis had a Z80 onboard, as did the Neo Geo and Capcom CPS arcade systems, even though all of them were mainly based on the Motorola 68000... Would any device with a Z80-be allowed or only classic Z80 computers?

I guess limiting to generic purpose computers (no consoles) with one main CPU, being the Z80, is the way to go here. Otherwise we could perhaps also invite dishwashers orso..

we could display some satellites

Part of the problem is that graphic calculators ARE general purpose computers. They're fully programmable, run a bastardized pseudo-BASIC and all seem to have active devscenes...

Also, would terminal-based CP/M boxen be in the running or would having graphics and sound abilities be part of the qualification?

Let's not find problems where they typically aren't .. Unless someone can give me another brand, let's stick to msx/spec/cpc.

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Let's not find problems where they typically aren't .. Unless someone can give me another brand, let's stick to msx/spec/cpc.

Colecovision?

Is there a vivid scene for the coleco?

Well, I'd like to say that Coleco, SMS, GG or even Colour/classic GB with its Z80-alike are all of them systems with an active scene. I don't have details about Amstrad PCW development, but I'd say that it is also a Z80 based computer...

And to remain consistent, Turbo-R users should be banned from coming in, at least in R800 mode

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Is there a vivid scene for the coleco?

I am on a coleco mailing list and I get quite a few mails. Maybe not as vivid as the MSX scene but seems pretty good.

I guess it has something to do with gameconsoles as well... you need writeable carts for the gameboy, sega mastersystem, genesis
and colecovision in order to produce anything at all, unless you do it on an emulator basis. All of the devices don't have diskdrives,
but there is at least a large gameboy composer scene, consisting of over a hundred people. As for the sega, I wouldn't know.

Remember that there is also a Coleco computer, the "Adam" ;D

And we can include in the lot all the SG1000/etc from SEGA, that can be also used as computers (dunno the details regarding all of them and don't have the time atm to wiki a bit )

I guess there is hardly a scene for the sg1000, since they are pretty rare. Never see them pop up on ebay either...
same for the jupiter ace (nice looking thing)... maybe the sam coupé (another z80 thingy) has some following,
I believe chances to stumble upon a small community of those users is more probable then the sg1000,
which I think was mainly a jap thing