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wolf_

msx legend
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Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 13:08   
For a HD of that size I actually don't bother much for that "minor difference"..
tfh
msx addict
Berichten: 492
Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 13:54   
Quote:

It gets more serious if you buy a 1TB harddisc, which appears to be able to hold only 931GB, just because of the diff between 1000 and 1024. So, it is not total bs. The problem is that it does not make things very clear yet either.


So it would be a lot better if the HDD manufacturers would sell those discs as being 931GB instead of 1TB, or actually make them 1TB, according to the 8bits system

The first "shop" or "brand" that is going to offer systems, mentioning kibi, mibi, tibi or tittybytes, will never be taken seriously anymore.
wolf_

msx legend
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Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 18:00   
tittibites ^___^
yakumo
msx user
Berichten: 51
Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 18:32   
There is a fact that someone cannot agree, but there's need of some internationalization. I don't really like how kibibytes sounds instead of kylobytes, same for gibibutes (gigabytes) or tebibytes(terabytes), but there is something we all have to understand. If we (the world) have decided that kilo means 10^3, this must be for every unit that is measured, there cannot be any exceptions and say that kilo sometimes mean 1000 and sometimes means 1024. So 1 kilometer is 10^3 meters, that is 1000 meters, and a kilobyte must be 1000 bytes.

Some have thought about it and have introduced kibi. The bi stands for 'two', like bi-sexual, bi-centenary (note that there must be no slash in the word) because we are measuring things that are power of two.

So I am in favour of this renaming, because apart of the strange that it will sound, it will be better for us because if Hard Disk and other devices capacity gets their capacity renamed with the news prefixes, then no one will be cheated again or will have to calculate how many gigabytes his hard disk does really have.

I personally hate ambiguities, and I will accept any idea that helps to avoid them.
wolf_

msx legend
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Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 18:45   
Here's a solution: keep the kilo differences as they are, and mention HD sizes in bytes from now on
tfh
msx addict
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Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 19:26   
/me agrees with Wolf.

yakumo
msx user
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Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 20:10   
@Wolf:

And then when it comes the time of using Petabytes (or Pebibytes), the HD manufacturers will be ruined because they will have to spend more money in the ink used to write the bytes number in the HD label that in the HD technolony itself
dvik
msx master
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Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 20:18   
Now to the trick question. Is one millibyte 1/1000 or 1/1024 of one byte?
yakumo
msx user
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Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 20:58   
Millibyte should be 1/1000.
Mibibyte should be 1/1024.

I think...

What about microbyte, femptobyte, picabyte? LOL.
wolf_

msx legend
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Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 21:02   
I propose oodlebyte. Which equals oodles o' bytes.
dvik
msx master
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Geplaatst: 19 Augustus 2007, 21:24   
I would guess that one decibyte == one bit. the closest power of 2 of 1/10 (deci) is 1/8 which is the same as one bit. Maybe debibyte is the more correct word for it (1/8 byte)

So from now on I'll stop using the name bit and use debibyte instead. So instead of saying e.g. bit 7 I'll say debibyte 7. Sounds good, rite?
yakumo
msx user
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Geplaatst: 20 Augustus 2007, 07:15   
And how will you call nibble, word and double word?

Aren't you pushing this nomenclature a little?
dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1289
Geplaatst: 20 Augustus 2007, 07:50   
maybe a tiny little bit but someone started it... I was perfectly happy with kilobyte but once I heard about this revolutionary idea I got hooked and now I just want more
ro
msx guru
Berichten: 2274
Geplaatst: 20 Augustus 2007, 08:50   
Quote:

I would guess that one decibyte == one bit. the closest power of 2 of 1/10 (deci) is 1/8 which is the same as one bit.


More like 1 decibit (or debibit) is 1 byte... what the fuck.

Let's just forget the whole metric system when talking bits 'n bytes. Let us decide on something completely NEW instead. just for arguments sake..

A gallion of bytes...
1 foot of bits equals a dozen bytes.. or something


BYTE ME!
ro
msx guru
Berichten: 2274
Geplaatst: 20 Augustus 2007, 08:53   
Quote:

I propose oodlebyte. Which equals oodles o' bytes.


Now, there's a good start
oodlebytes, gazillionbytes, ziltchbytes, lotsabytes.

"Can I have 1 plentybit please?", "would you like it wrapped, sir?"
 
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