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MSX and Konami's Dance Dance Revolution

cax

msx professional
Berichten: 989
Geplaatst: 14 September 2007, 21:40   
Did you hear about Dance Dance Revolution ? I am sure you know what's I am talking about, because it's made by company we all know and love - Konami. And probably you also know about PC versions of this great game like StepMania, Dance With Intensity, etc.

I've got a dance mat and started gathering so-called simfiles (set of songs with step files to be played in programs like StepMania) with melodies from various known computer games. Some of these games were released on MSX as well, so I can call them "MSX simfiles".

Here is the list of what I've collected so far:


  • Bubble Bobble (2 versions)
  • Eat 'Em Up! (a.k.a Pacman)
  • Pacman - Ram Trilogy Mix
  • Goonies 'R' Good Enough (rearrangement by Mr.T, 2 versions)
  • Gradius 3 - Salamander Beat Crush Mix
  • Gradius 3 - Burning Heat (rearrangement by Mr.T with Motoaki F)
  • Gradius -FULL SPEED- (rearrangement by Mr.T, 2 versions)
  • Tetris[Korobeiniki] (Trance Version)
  • Tetris[Korobeiniki] - Ska Mix
  • Tetris[Korobeiniki] (2 more versions)
  • TwinBee ~Generation X~ (by FinalOffset, 2 versions)
  • Vampire Killer (Neo-Thunder Mix by DM Ashura)


Other simfiles I've found include Legend Of Zelda, Mario, Metal Gear Solid 2, various songs from a lot of Castlevania titles, but I don't think I can call them or their songs MSX-related.

I have two questions to you, dear MSX-ers:

- if you like playing DDR and have a good collection of step files, can you share with me those ones from popular computer games, especially if the coresponding song appeared on MSX ? Of course, I am talking about legally distributed step files and/or accompanying music.

- people from MSX scene released a lot of *FANTASTIC* rearrangements, which mostly sound even better than works of Mr.T I've mentioned above. If you want more listeners to hear MSX rearrangements, then creating a good step files and releasing them via various DDR contests, sites, etc., can be the very perspective way to become popular, and popularize MSX as well ! The number of DDR hobbyists is growing today just like during karaoke hype some years ago. Would you like to step in ?
dexx
msx lover
Berichten: 94
Geplaatst: 15 September 2007, 00:01   
lol i know DDR to much.. it's not fun anymore
and yes i know a few songs in the list

TwinBee ~Generation X~
and a few songs from Mr. T

there is also another song called BURNING HEAT!!

and there are a few other games with game music from the MSX..

game name: Pop'n Music
company: Konami

song: Goonies "R" good enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifVBfsNXl2Q

Song: Ganbare Goemon Medley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4unxG21Dz-s

Song: Akumajo Dracula Melody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGADTVmSJrA


Game name: Beatmania IIDX
Company: Konami (YES, again )

SONG: Burning Heat!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bGyFXOgJ5U

SONG: GRADIUS -FULL SPEED-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7A3TnBVwTw


EXTRA!! a song played be ME!! just a cool song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZRzZAcWaX8



cax

msx professional
Berichten: 989
Geplaatst: 15 September 2007, 09:03   
Quote:


there is also another song called BURNING HEAT!!

and there are a few other games with game music from the MSX..

Song: Goonies "R" good enough
Song: Akumajo Dracula Melody
SONG: Burning Heat!
SONG: GRADIUS -FULL SPEED-



In fact, I mentioned I have all of those...


Quote:


game name: Pop'n Music
company: Konami

Song: Ganbare Goemon Medley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4unxG21Dz-s

Game name: Beatmania IIDX
Company: Konami (YES, again )

EXTRA!! a song played be ME!! just a cool song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZRzZAcWaX8



Cool, thank you, will look for those !

sunrise
msx professional
Berichten: 649
Geplaatst: 15 September 2007, 11:09   
Seems to me it something for Wolf also
By using the from spain I bought once ps2 to msx, I can use a dancemat on msx.
So would it not be great to use the music and the dancemat with msx.
There also usb-dancemats. Maybe time to ...
dexx
msx lover
Berichten: 94
Geplaatst: 15 September 2007, 11:38   
Quote:

Quote:


there is also another song called BURNING HEAT!!

and there are a few other games with game music from the MSX..

Song: Goonies "R" good enough
Song: Akumajo Dracula Melody
SONG: Burning Heat!
SONG: GRADIUS -FULL SPEED-



In fact, I mentioned I have all of those...


Quote:


game name: Pop'n Music
company: Konami

Song: Ganbare Goemon Medley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4unxG21Dz-s

Game name: Beatmania IIDX
Company: Konami (YES, again )

EXTRA!! a song played be ME!! just a cool song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZRzZAcWaX8



Cool, thank you, will look for those !



i can maybe record the songs from my collection..

i play Pop'n music and IIDX a lot :-) i just put it in training mode with AUTO PLAY for song recording..
did you see the EXTRA song?
Imanok
msx addict
Berichten: 282
Geplaatst: 15 September 2007, 14:40   
Quote:

Seems to me it something for Wolf also
By using the from spain I bought once ps2 to msx, I can use a dancemat on msx.
So would it not be great to use the music and the dancemat with msx.
There also usb-dancemats. Maybe time to ...



You remember this for sure!
www.msx.org/forumtopic3331.html

I also remember we played 'Nemesis 2' for a while with the dance mat, in a Barcelona MSX meeting... the freakometer was about to explode!!
cax

msx professional
Berichten: 989
Geplaatst: 15 September 2007, 17:29   
Quote:


i can maybe record the songs from my collection..



I didn't find any DDR version of Ganbare Goemon Medley, only sites that mention Pop'n music 12/13.
The song itself is not that important - step files are.

Quote:


i play Pop'n music and IIDX a lot :-) i just put it in training mode with AUTO PLAY for song recording..
did you see the EXTRA song?



Yes, it's nice.

BTW, I've got "Dance with Mario" (DDR: Mario Mix) set, and "Rendezvous on ice" from it is exactly the BGM used in Antarctic Adventure, so it can be called "MSX-related" as well.
dexx
msx lover
Berichten: 94
Geplaatst: 15 September 2007, 22:30   
Quote:

Quote:


i can maybe record the songs from my collection..



I didn't find any DDR version of Ganbare Goemon Medley, only sites that mention Pop'n music 12/13.
The song itself is not that important - step files are.

Quote:


i play Pop'n music and IIDX a lot :-) i just put it in training mode with AUTO PLAY for song recording..
did you see the EXTRA song?



Yes, it's nice.

BTW, I've got "Dance with Mario" (DDR: Mario Mix) set, and "Rendezvous on ice" from it is exactly the BGM used in Arctic Adventure, so it can be called "MSX-related" as well.



yeah

try to get a modded PS2.. get a POP'n music controller.. en play those games
cax

msx professional
Berichten: 989
Geplaatst: 16 September 2007, 12:51   
I've bought a dance pad as a gym replacement that I can use to have fun while playing on the computer at the same time , so any other controller that doesn't envolve muscular exercising is out of interest at the time

I also try to use a dance pad to play so-called active games (branded by Kraft). Football and karate are interesting ideas for a pad game, but I prefer a whack-a-mole-type of game they have.

I also tried to use dance pad configured as MSX joystick in BlueMSX, but it almost impossible to play this way games that require a lot of keypresses - shooters, etc.

I am going to try Arkanoid and SnakeIt, any other ideas for a MSX game to be played with dance pad ?

Heh, I imagine King's Valley Dance Pad Contest - it should be nice to compete with somebody else in leg-playing As Imanok said, freakometer will explode
cax

msx professional
Berichten: 989
Geplaatst: 16 September 2007, 15:54   
Arkanoid, SnakeIt... I almost forgot about Tetris and Pinball that really can suit dancepad-playing ! Any other ideas ?
norakomi
msx professional
Berichten: 861
Geplaatst: 16 September 2007, 16:17   
Cool,
I've been thinking about making a DDR game for msx !!!
Is it still posible to but those dancemats for msx ?
and what about those dancemats for the pc, where can I buy those ???
cax

msx professional
Berichten: 989
Geplaatst: 16 September 2007, 16:21   
At our local stores we have the following types of dance mats:

  • with PlayStation-type connector
  • with parallel port connector
  • with USB connector
  • with 2 connectors - USB and PS
  • pads that don't need console or PC to be played - connect them to TV and power adapter and play

Prodatron
msx master
Berichten: 1088
Geplaatst: 16 September 2007, 23:14   
As soon as we have an USB master interface, we can do DDR very cool together with the MP3MSX card! I am really looking forward to it!
cax

msx professional
Berichten: 989
Geplaatst: 16 September 2007, 23:31   
Too bad I cannot map all 10 dance pad buttons in blueMSX, the only partially appropriate device was a 2-button joystick that has 4 arrows.

But it seems I anyway have to use external tools that map real joystick to keyboard:

- it seems that using emulated joystick doesn't work well with Arkanoid - IIRC it requires special joystick ?
- using dancepad diagonal arrows to simulate simultaneous pressing of 2 regular arrows should simplify gameplay a lot (e.g. if you have to press space+diagonal arrow with just two legs)

I tried today dance mat with Tetris, Road Fighter, Pacman, Antarctic Adventure, KungFu, King's Valley (passing 1st level was a hard job !), Snakeit, Penguin Wars and Arkanoid, and each of them had it's own problems and techniques to master
manuel
msx guru
Berichten: 3296
Geplaatst: 17 September 2007, 08:49   
Arkanoid uses a special analog wheel device as a controlling device.

Note: at least in openMSX (0.6.3 at least), you can assign any button to any function. So, you could assign a button to F2, to pause a Konami game, e.g. Or assign a button to the reset button, to annoy yourself
 
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