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Screen 1 ? No, Thanks

PingPong
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 30 April 2008, 21:52   
Most games uses screen 2 on msx1. Are there games with good gfx that works on sc 1?
dvik
msx master
Berichten: 1289
Geplaatst: 30 April 2008, 22:05   
Lotus F3, m.a.z.e, Yahtzee are all screen 1. But whether these games have good gfx I'm not sure.
dvik
msx master
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Geplaatst: 30 April 2008, 22:06   
Btw, why the title of the thread? I'd say Screen 1, Yes please !
AuroraMSX

msx master
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Geplaatst: 30 April 2008, 23:00   
There's nothing wrong with the graphics of Lotus F3 :-D
ARTRAG
msx master
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Geplaatst: 01 Mei 2008, 09:11   
well, IIRC also Theseus is screen 1
(the sole msx 1 multi directional fine scrolling in old times)
PingPong
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 01 Mei 2008, 09:12   
Quote:

Btw, why the title of the thread? I'd say Screen 1, Yes please !


That's because i've never seen a lot of games working in screen 1 (I'm referring to the active MSX era), so in my mind comes the image of the sw houses of that era saying ' Screen 1 ? no thanks'....
jltursan
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 01 Mei 2008, 12:18   
Blagger is also in Screen 1....and IIRC the forthcoming Montezuma's Revenge will be screen 1 too
PingPong
msx professional
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Geplaatst: 01 Mei 2008, 18:35   
Thinking about the old days, none of these games have soooooo stunning gfx.... however.


hap
msx addict
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Geplaatst: 01 Mei 2008, 21:57   
(Theseus is screen 2)
Screen 1 isn't that bad, it allows fast updating.. and indeed, many old MSX games graphics aren't that stunning, eg. Zanac could be screen 1 with some small modifications (like "red eye correction")
ARTRAG
msx master
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Geplaatst: 01 Mei 2008, 22:26   
Theseus is screen 2 !
Strange, I wouldn't have said that
Vincent van Dam
msx addict
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Geplaatst: 01 Mei 2008, 22:42   
Actually, Lotus F3 in-game is screen 1 (reduced mode), screen 2 (regular msx1) and screen 4 (msx2). But the default configuration for msx 1 is screen 1. The visual difference is the amount of colours in the status area of the in-game screen.
dvik
msx master
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Geplaatst: 01 Mei 2008, 23:08   
Ok, here are some (I checked all/most of my msx roms except 32kB roms):

- Alcazar
- Aquattack
- Blockade Runner
- Break Out
- Butamaru Pants
- Comet Tail
- Dragon Attack
- Front Line
- Gokiburi Daisakusen - Bug Bomb
- Gozira 3D
- Heli Tank
- King & Balloon
- Mobile Suit Gundam
- MSX Baseball 1
- MSX Soccer
- Ninja Kun
- Pac-Man
- Pai Panic
- Pass Ball
- Peetan
- Rally-X
- Soukoban
- Space Trouble
- Squish'em
- Step Up
- Super Billiards
- Super Snake
- Tank Battalion
- Ultraman
- Warp Warp

Several of these are Hal games, so I just became a big Hal fan

*EDIT* I only checked games that I could get to game play in less than three seconds with fast forward emulation, so games with tricky menus or long boot times are not tested.

Semi off topic: and here is the screen 3 games I've encountered:
- Iriegas
dvik
msx master
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Geplaatst: 01 Mei 2008, 23:09   
Some of these games actually have really good gfx, so check them out and see what you think.
manuel
msx guru
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Geplaatst: 02 Mei 2008, 11:29   
Next question: which screen 1 game has the best graphics?
MSXOsaure
msx friend
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Geplaatst: 02 Mei 2008, 12:36   
 
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