Astrododge

There's also a freeware version for the Chip8 and SuperChip8 systems :

http://www.revival-studios.com/?page=103

mufster: Revival Studios did this (duh)
I like the PSG music in the preview vid, will that be in the game too?

Muffie showed me an iOS game called Asteroids No Guns.
Which was actually this game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05KVcYVt7yc

With retro graphics...

Nice, even if it seems a bit repetitive in the long term (asteroids move vertically and it seems there is no variation in the game play). Anyway, the rotation of asteroids is very well animated.

Bleah, the usual and stupid palette redefinition.

This is actually a usual thing: 'Improved on msx2'. More honestly i say "MSX1 game, with redefined palette on MSX2". It's more near to the reality, instead of claiming what so "beautiful" improvement on msx2 machines.
Or more honestly define this as a MSX1 game.
Redefine the palette is too much a little effort to say "MSX2 ehnanced grafphics."
I did this on the old days in the tape basic loader of the msx1 games.

Please, be always grateful with new releases. You are not forced to "like it" but respect each of the releases. If you want a better game, try to do yourself. I think the worst to do is to criticize... and just before playing. All MSX new games are always welcomed for me! Thank you Revival Studios.

the only old and stale thing here is the usual MSX1 orientation of MRC.

wait, what? you want them to only report on MSX2 developments then?
There's always going to be more MSX development than MSX2 development, because it's a much more common system. I like MSX2 too, but saying MRC has MSX1 orientation... if anything, it would be the other way 'round (it's not) because the founders are from the Dutch MSX community which has been very MSX2-oriented traditionally.

The only reason MRC is reporting about MSX1 so much is that the community is only creating MSX1 products. All we do is report on MSX activity, and if all that activity is MSX1, well, you'll see lots of MSX1 oriented stuff.

Thought that was pretty obvious. Awell...

Good small game, thanks Revival Studios, anyway, I will not buy this kind of games because I like to shoot to something. But lets talk only about the good things of the game.

Cool rendered asteroids,
Multicolor ships
Great Soundtrack
A lot of movement on screen.

MSX2 needs cool SC4, SC5 or SC8 graphics of course, that's because I am making some games for MSX2 only

I did too! Good memories.

Let's start a competition! Find the best arrangement of palette on MSX2 for every MSX1 game. ;-)

I accept your opinion but not your manners, there are many ways to say what we think. And yes, I miss a MSX2 games as well, same as everybody but we must to thank Revival Studios to offer us a brand new MSX game in 2012. I'll buy!

Ahwell, much ado about nothing.

Without rewriting the whole engine (as far as this is possible in the first place!) changing the palette is pretty much the only thing you can do between MSX1 and MSX2. The only exception *I* know is KV2, but that is really a sprite game anyway, not much of a VDP bottleneck. Another possible entry would be Montana John, which has slightly altered tiles for MSX2 (it remains screen 2 though) to prominently show extra colour shades.

With those sprites I meant that sprite collision is as far as the VDP bottleneck goes in KV2. In screen 5 you can only copy a limited amount o' bitmap gfx (fast!) per int. You certainly can't update the whole screen per int, which is what you can do with tile mode (screen 2/4). That's the major issue here. Only when (apart from sprites) there's little or nothing happening on screen can you create an MSX2 version from it, otherwise: palette is all there is (maybe a little bit o' scrolling here and there).

And as for MSX1 coders going crazy: I'm sure they do. But foremost they pick game genres or visual limitations that just matches what an MSX1 can do. That's something else than MSX1 coders being better than MSX2/+/g9k coders. Apples 'n oranges really..

I know some people that are making some good games on MSX2, they are using very well the VDP:

Artrag
Norakomi
Samsaga2

Do not worry if some people complain about MSX2 VDP, I am making with Samsaga2 a very fast diagonal smooth scroll game for MSX2, using 1MB rom space, very cool for a big game.

Norakomi is making Street Fighter 2 for MSX and I have to say that the game runs at 30fps on SC5 with the two characters on static background, music on FMpac and use Moonsound for samples speech and SFX. SF2 is much better than the Amiga and AtariST versions. Deva is on development and another platform game with smooth omnidirectional scroll.

Artrag is doing some games that he will end someday.

There is very good coders on MSX2 that makes very good use of VDP9938 capabilities.

Patience Ping Pong, MSX2 will have very good releases and of course, games that not work on MSX1.

hi all,

Just joined here at msx.org.
First of all, thanks to jorito for submitting the news article and everyone that mailed me (or posted) feedback. This is my first game for the MSX and therefore i had 3 goals:

1) Make a game that is easy to pick up and fun to play
2) Have a multiplayer mode (i for one always enjoy local-multiplayer games with my friends)
3) make the graphics look decent enough so it wouldn't fall totally flat on its face compared to some other msx homebrews.

I believe i succeeded in these goals , so that hopefully i can do a few more titles for this great system.

I've just briefly looked at the discussion above and both parties are right. This is by design a 32kb MSX1 game. I have always owned a MSX1 system since the 80s and love the Konami MSX1 stuff (there is even a pic of my konami msx collection on my website). I've played MSX2 games as well, but for me personally (but to each its own) it never gave me the same nostalgic vibe as popping in a msx1 classic like knightmare or kings valley. But again: that is just me personally, and surely lots of people disagree.
Like mentioned by others, the MSX2 palette is indeed added as an extra for those that prefer to play the game on a MSX2.

Anyways, I hope that people will enjoy the game (i will be bringing it to the nijmegen 2013 event for everyone to play), so far people that played it really seemed to enjoy the game so i hope the msx-scene will feel the same way!

Kind regards,

Martijn / Revival Studios

PS> Since i spend most of my spare time developing instead of lurking around forums, i usually won't be commenting a whole lot. MSX1 and MSX2 purist are ofcourse welcome to exchange meaningless arguments all they like.

But why is the Videopac video having the same sound? It got no AY?
It sounds like all videos got just dubbed with same sound. Does the MSX version have this sound?

Then, (from all msx1 & msx2 purist), thank to allow us to do meaningless discussions.