A way to play MG2 Solid Snake without accessing the keyboard?

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Por olliraa

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04-02-2021, 13:50

Hi.

My retro computer setup shelf is built so that my 8 computers are hooked up to the CRT via a AV switch and also a self made relay based joystick switch. My MSX is on the second lowest shelf, so I cannot access the computer "actively" during game play. Usually this is not a problem (running SofaRun...) Unfortunately e.g. MG2 has several keyboard functions, which are not possible for me to use :/ How could I play MG2 without accessing the keyboard? A Joymega and some suitable joystick/pad with 3-6 buttons and those buttons mapped to the function keys used in MG2? Something else?

I'm all ears Smile

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Por Popolon_fr

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04-02-2021, 15:47

Hi, Cool

MGS2 (patches) with a JoySnes adapter and a Snes controller...

Por olliraa

Champion (325)

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04-02-2021, 16:45

Thanks for the info, looks very good Smile I forgot to mention that I'm so oldskool, that I prefer Joysticks over pads oO I found these, would these work somehow?

https://monsterjoysticks.com/retro-gaming-joystick-kits

Por gdx

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04-02-2021, 17:04

Since when are joypads no longer old school?

You can also use arcade type joysticks with the JOYSNES if that's what you want.
There are several models such as this one:
https://obscurevideogames.com/2013/12/22/c-l-championship-jo...

Por olliraa

Champion (325)

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04-02-2021, 17:08

gdx wrote:

Since when are joypads no longer old school?

You can also use arcade type joysticks with the JOYSNES if that's what you want.
There are several models such as this one:
https://obscurevideogames.com/2013/12/22/c-l-championship-joystick-review-snes-controller/amp/

I meant, at least for me the joysticks were first (beginning of the 80's) and then a while later there were pads :) Thanks for the tip!

Por Popolon_fr

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04-02-2021, 18:31

Ah yes... it's solid. Wouldn't miss the tracks ? There are others of arcade type with 8 buttons at 8BITDO on their website.

https://www.8bitdo.com/arcade-stick/
https://www.8bitdo.com/n30-arcade-stick/

Although I have just noticed that they are not appropriate. You can also find them on Ebay.com at all prices by searching for Arcade Snes Controller.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m...

Por JohnHassink

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04-02-2021, 18:55

gdx wrote:

Since when are joypads no longer old school?

For 'Western' people (and yes, I'm going to count Finland to that) who were playing games on home computers, joysticks were absolutely more common.
I actually remember game reviewers in the '80s and early '90s complaining about how having to use a joypad can bring one to "helpless rage". How the times have changed. Smile

Por olliraa

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04-02-2021, 19:03

Popolon_fr wrote:

Ah yes... it's solid. Wouldn't miss the tracks ? There are others of arcade type with 8 buttons at 8BITDO on their website.

https://www.8bitdo.com/arcade-stick/
https://www.8bitdo.com/n30-arcade-stick/

Although I have just noticed that they are not appropriate. You can also find them on Ebay.com at all prices by searching for Arcade Snes Controller.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m...

Thanks again for the tip :)

JohnHassink wrote:
gdx wrote:

Since when are joypads no longer old school?

For 'Western' people (and yes, I'm going to count Finland to that) who were playing games on home computers, joysticks were absolutely more common.
I actually remember game reviewers in the '80s and early '90s complaining about how having to use a joypad can bring one to "helpless rage". How the times have changed. :)

Yeah, that was the case here in Finland. No pads until NES in ~1985.

Por Louthrax

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04-02-2021, 20:26

SofaRun is supporting JoySnes and JoyMega for most of Konami and Compile games (without using any patch).

Also, as GDX said for SNES, you can find some arcade joysticks that are Megadrive compatible (you'll still need a JoyMega adapter), or even buid one yourself if you don't like joypad (and build the JoyMega adapter inside of the box).

Por JohnHassink

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04-02-2021, 21:35

olliraa wrote:

Yeah, that was the case here in Finland. No pads until NES in ~1985.

Same here in The Netherlands, my friend. That's why I mentioned it. Smile

Por gdx

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05-02-2021, 02:40

JohnHassink wrote:

For 'Western' people (and yes, I'm going to count Finland to that) who were playing games on home computers, joysticks were absolutely more common.
I actually remember game reviewers in the '80s and early '90s complaining about how having to use a joypad can bring one to "helpless rage". How the times have changed.

At first, I used paddle controller (pong console) then Joystick because I had a Atari 2600/VCS. Joypads became popular since 1983 in the world but Joypads already existed in 1979. From my first MSX, I gave up joysticks (1984/85) for most games because it was often more efficient. Joysticks are better for some games provided that they are well fixed (like arcade cabinet). For me, joysticks and joypads are both old school.
The proof is that many young people don't even know what joypad means. They only know the controllers with the two mushrooms and often shaped like a big banana.

olliraa wrote:

Yeah, that was the case here in Finland. No pads until NES in ~1985.

You didn't have Intellivision in Finland? This console uses (bad) joypads.

Louthrax wrote:

SofaRun is supporting JoySnes and JoyMega for most of Konami and Compile games (without using any patch).

Whether you patch the game loaded in RAM or the system, it's finally the same. Wink

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