A new MSX (3?) for 2022 ?

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Por mars2000you

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15-10-2021, 16:11

Por Dolphin101546015

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15-10-2021, 16:56

yep

Also:
New v9998 VDP FullHD 2k (1920x1080) + SuperSprites tech, implemented on FPGA.
Onchip internal graphics accelerator will not use in the first release.
Machine come with C, Python, Lisp, and ofc MSX BASIC from the box.

And more: Nishi told, Proto machine working already. Smile

Por ivke2006

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15-10-2021, 19:09

Sounds very cool but I’m afraid they won’t sell more then a few thousand if the price is 600+ euro.

Why would people buy a raspberry pi like machine for this amount of money if they are not part of the MSX scene?

Por tfh

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15-10-2021, 19:56

If people were already complaining about the price-level of the MSX-VR...

Por Maltarouti2

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16-10-2021, 15:46

My 2 cents: The most realistic and sustainable way to introduce a new MSX is to adopt standard of the shelf hardware. For example a Snapdragon 898 chipset with minimum 8gb ram. That would guarantee long term compatibility with future chipsets and make software development and optimization much easier. It would be powerful and at the same time wouldn’t have to cost a fortune. After all the MSX used the then very popular Z80. The OS could also be built on top of linux of android AOSP.

Por FiXato

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16-10-2021, 17:24

Anything that's not going to be backwards compatible with MSX (and no, I don't count software emulation as compatible), should not be considered an MSX imho. Smile

Por Pac

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16-10-2021, 19:03

I could not agree more. I understand that the SCC has Konami copyrights but all the previous VDP and soundchips should be included, off course MSX-AUDIO too.

Por SwissPanasonic

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19-10-2021, 15:45

Too bad for the SCC. It will be necessary to see the final model with the bodywork.
I think HDMI to be connected to modern TVs? I wonder which company is going to build this. Since it comes from Japan, it will take a good export system. And of course, as Mr. Nishi had mentioned, a system for downloading old or new games or software, as it exists on Switch, etc. Because many fans or old fans who want to buy this no longer necessarily have programs to the House.
In any case, I plan to buy this and have more confidence than the MSXVR.

Por ducasp

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19-10-2021, 20:48

FiXato wrote:

Anything that's not going to be backwards compatible with MSX (and no, I don't count software emulation as compatible), should not be considered an MSX imho. Smile

So PCs are no longer PCs, Mac computers are no longer Mac, and so on...

You can't run a dos game on a modern pc without emulation (and probably there are plenty PCs that doesn't have BIOS to run even disk access in real mode). That's life, sure enough any real try of rebooting a MSX with modern features will use emulation for backwards compatibility.

Por tfh

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19-10-2021, 20:52

Reading all of this doesn't give me any "MSX" feelings. It feels like a RPi-clone running an MSX emulator.
But, I'd love to be proven wrong though.

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