Newbie to learn assembly

Expert (113)

27-10-2011, 21:49

After approximately 10 years my msx blood has started to flow again. Playing some games on the emulator (finally got to play Illusion City ) and such. One of my childhood dreams was to fully master to program the msx in assembly (nothing wrong with having decent targets). At the end of the nineties I did some assembly coding, but on a low level. At some point I lost interest to msx due to various reasons.

I would like to energize that long sensing feeling to learn to decently code the msx. And thus, this post.

At this point I got myself some good (starter) documents and webpages.
V9938 technical handbook (scanned version aswell as the one by Eugeny Brychkov)
Reading the Rodnay Zaks book on the Z80 (worth buying I guess)
Z80.info
Msx Assembly Page (by grauw)
Milc

I noticed that the download area got some nice tools aswell, like polka.

As this point, I have two questions.
Are there any good msx image viewers for windows?
What would be a good IDE? My idea is to mainly code and compile on my pc. I tried to find some reviews on Chaos Assembler 3, but could not find any. Any links or other suggestions?

Thanks

By Huey

Prophet (2694)

27-10-2011, 21:57

I use ultra-edit + sjasm (http://home.wanadoo.nl/smastijn/sjasm.html) to code (but perhaps TNIasm or asMSX might work just as good).
For graphics I use character maker 1999 and some handmade tools to convert bmp to msx format (mainly screen2)

The only use for my real MSX is testing and playing games ;)

BTW I think Rodnay Zaks book is a good start. I personal had some good result first starting on MSX1 as the MSX2 vdp was a little too much for me at first (but after gaining some experience not THAT difficult).

By Huey

Prophet (2694)

27-10-2011, 22:05

BTW: Teddy Warez/ Tunez 1 (gerfield). Does it ring a bell?

By BlueCrystal

Expert (113)

27-10-2011, 22:30

Yes, it does
Also did some (minor) coding on other teddywarez stuff, but I think that D-fader rewrote all my code.
Getting of topic here, but my main thing was GFX. Did some for -iirc- Compjoetania, C-tng, Datax and ofcourse Teddywarez. Maybe I forgot some?

By Manuel

Ascended (19676)

27-10-2011, 22:45

Cool, welcome back! I probably spoke with you before, maybe even on IRC?

There is an MSX image viewer for Windows by t00b, it's probably online in the downloads database. Yes, it is: http://www.msx.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=visit&lid=729

By BlueCrystal

Expert (113)

27-10-2011, 23:57

Yes, ages ago (when poep was stil written with a lange oe), I did some IRC. The msx viewer gives me an error when launching. Probably client side error, will figure it out.

By Vampier

Prophet (2415)

28-10-2011, 07:54

http://www.msx.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=visit&lid=1128

check the .asm file

By BlueCrystal

Expert (113)

01-11-2011, 08:53

Vampier, thank you for the link. Looking at the source code it is interesting to see how 'simple' it actually appears. Cough cough. I still got some questions about it, do you have an email address available? I could not find a PM on this forum or your email address in the member list.

By Sky_hawk

Champion (267)

10-11-2011, 21:01

for details about the z80 see also http://www.myquest.nl/z80undocumented/
The document is originally by Sean Young, I continued his work...

By d-fader

Champion (293)

10-11-2011, 22:04

[offtopic]Hey BlueC! Nice to see you around here man! I don't think I actually rewote your code, might have changed something to make it work in our products, but hey, I was young and ignorant. I now am somehat older and plain stupid. We should get a beer sometime Where do you live nowadays? I live in Purmerend (same town as BiFi -> he was THE reason of moving here )[/offtopic]

By Huey

Prophet (2694)

11-11-2011, 07:26

for details about the z80 see also http://www.myquest.nl/z80undocumented/
The document is originally by Sean Young, I continued his work...

How about adding this to the document: http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.sys.sinclair/2006-04/msg00072.html