Improve the Wikipedia MSX entries

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By hamlet

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20-07-2020, 20:43


For years I succeed in the German Wikipedia again and again small errors, prejudices and ignorance to improve. Important in this work are reliable references.
Basically Wikipedia does not like to see references based on this forum.
I have now succeeded in enhancing a large part of the patched up introduction and history section.
For evidence I am now looking for references:

  • Sales quantities in Japan, the Netherlands
  • name origin from official sources.I am looking for the manual of the Sanyo PHC28.
  • The Japanese PC Magazine I/O
  • Collaboration of ASCII's and Microsoft on the NEC PC 8000

This is just the start, thank you very much for your help in advance.

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By tfh

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20-07-2020, 22:24

hamlet wrote:

Basically Wikipedia does not like to see references based on this forum.

Not that weird in my opinion. The MSX community likes to rewrite history based on fantasy, assumptions, guesses and wishfull thinking.

By TheKid

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21-07-2020, 10:07

Why, I always thought it was true there where sold more MSX 2's than PS 4's. Or was that wishfull thinking Smile Smile
But good initiative hamlet, If I have something usefull to add/edit on the msx wiki I will do so.

By Bodhi1969

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01-09-2020, 17:05

In this context I would like ask if there is a complete list about how many different MSX models were made by various manufacterers?

By tfh

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01-09-2020, 18:08

Bodhi1969 wrote:

In this context I would like ask if there is a complete list about how many different MSX models were made by various manufacterers?

Check the wiki on this website.

By gdx

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02-09-2020, 09:48

tfh wrote:

Not that weird in my opinion. The MSX community likes to rewrite history based on fantasy, assumptions, guesses and wishfull thinking.

Can you cite examples from the MRC wiki of what you are saying?

tfh wrote:

In this context I would like ask if there is a complete list about how many different MSX models were made by various manufacterers?

This is the most complet ever on the web.
https://www.msx.org/wiki/MSX_Computers

By Bodhi1969

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02-09-2020, 12:42

tfh wrote:

In this context I would like ask if there is a complete list about how many different MSX models were made by various manufacterers?

This is the most complet ever on the web.
https://www.msx.org/wiki/MSX_Computers

Thanks gds, that´s great help! Appreciate it! :)

By The Apeman

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02-09-2020, 16:18

TheKid wrote:

Why, I always thought it was true there where sold more MSX 2's than PS 4's. Or was that wishfull thinking Smile Smile

Well, I bought more MSXs than PS2s, so I agree.

By tfh

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02-09-2020, 16:22

gdx wrote:
tfh wrote:

Not that weird in my opinion. The MSX community likes to rewrite history based on fantasy, assumptions, guesses and wishfull thinking.

Can you cite examples from the MRC wiki of what you are saying?

This refered to Wikipedia, not the MRC wiki. Haven't checked that one myself.
But the MSX abbreviation is already a nice example ;-)

By gdx

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06-09-2020, 10:47

MSX has at last two meanings. Mr. Nishi give two different meanings during conferences or interview. I think he used the meaning that best suited the intended audience. He said more often "Machines with Software eXchangeability" in Japan and "MicroSoft eXtended" for foreigners at the time of the MSX1.

He also said "Matsushita, Sony and X machines" but it was probably a joke because after a certain time, Matsushita and Sony, they were the main manufacturers. He must have regretted that the others were no longer not very active. Two manufacturers is not enough to claim a standard.

So it's normal for people who don't have the same definition but that doesn't mean they're all wrong. Having said that, it's true that there are some pretty wacky definitions in our wiki as well.

By tfh

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06-09-2020, 11:44

gdx wrote:

MSX has at last two meanings. Mr. Nishi give two different meanings during conferences or interview. I think he used the meaning that best suited the intended audience. He said more often "Machines with Software eXchangeability" in Japan and "MicroSoft eXtended" for foreigners at the time of the MSX1.

He also said "Matsushita, Sony and X machines" but it was probably a joke because after a certain time, Matsushita and Sony, they were the main manufacturers. He must have regretted that the others were no longer not very active. Two manufacturers is not enough to claim a standard.

So it's normal for people who don't have the same definition but that doesn't mean they're all wrong. Having said that, it's true that there are some pretty wacky definitions in our wiki as well.

Well.. Just go and try to find ANY printed reference of the "Machines with Software eXchangeability" dated before 1990, or even let's say the Tilburg Fair. where he introduced it. Any...
I'll happily post a few for the MicroSoft eXtended, which will be easy they are everywhere.

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