MSX Nijmegen 2014 - reminder | MSX Resource Center

Next Saturday, the 25th of January the annual Dutch MSX fair in Nijmegen will be held. Apart from the listed stand holders there will also be an MSX themed quiz again and plenty of opportunity to catch up with fellow MSX users, followed by the traditional dinner afterwards. So make sure you go to the MSX fair in Nijmegen if you're able!

Here's a list of the participants:

openMSX Team - Demonstration of the current developing version of openMSX, all Laserdisc games, the latest developments and the debugger GUI. Also we'll be showing openMSX running on Android, GCW Zero and the Dingoo A320.
Bas Kornalijnslijper - Repairs, expansions, cables, parts, buy and sale of second hand MSX hardware.
WORP3 - Sale and promotion of the MIDI-PAC, showing the progress of our Orbit project and on request, displaying our Super Nintendo SD-Snatcher demo.
MSX Resource Center - Sale of MSX T-Shirts, Girlies and MSX mints. Yum!
The New Image - Demonstration of pseudoMSX. Sale of MSX merchandise and promotion of TNI software.
Raymond Hoogerdijk - Sale of MSX books, magazines, hardware and software.
MSX Club West-Friesland - Promotion and sale of MSX equipment, including books, magazines, software and hardware.
Bitwise - Distribution and demonstration of MSX games.
MSX Vriendenclub Mariënberg - Promotion of MSX Vriendenclub Mariënberg.
SymbOS - SymbOS demonstration/promotion.
MIF & Misc. stuff - Demo of real-time conversion from webcam to screen 2-12 on PC, screen 2 and 4 movies on MSX (maybe with sound...), demo of GMRUN and other MSX dev stuff.
TriloByte - Demonstration of TriloTracker music tracker. 'Hands on' with the new tracker and get help on getting started.
Nowind - Programming and fun with a Nowind interface.
Laurens Holst - Demonstration of the Glass Z80 assembler and a MIDI project.
Zemmix NEO - Erik Luppes shows his Zemmix NEO and plays some games.
SuperSoniqs - Sale of Modulon slotexpander, Playsoniq, MSX Audio expansion and demonstration of other SuperSoniqs products.

The fair is held in Wijkcentrum Hatert, Couwenbergstraat 22, Nijmegen, directions on how to get there can be found on the MSX fair Nijmegen 2014 website.

Relevant link: MSX fair Nijmegen 2014

Commentaires (71)

Par Manuel

Ascended (18864)

19-01-2014, 16:43

Entrance is now at the front end again, as all building refurbishment is finished. So, go in at the front, see the photo on the fair website. The entrance is in the corner on the right wall.

The back side is not open.

Par Repair-Bas

Paragon (1155)

19-01-2014, 17:42

Cash money for your msx hardware, not working also welcome.
Please sent me an email or take it with you to nijmegen.

Par FiXato

Scribe (1738)

19-01-2014, 18:33

Wish I could attend, but as instant teleporters are still not a real thing, I'll be stuck in Norway.
Make it a wonderful day people!

Par KdL

Paragon (1434)

19-01-2014, 22:15

like+1 and good fair at all participants!

Par luppie

Paladin (864)

19-01-2014, 23:30

Looking forward to it. Hope the Chinese is a good 1

Par Manuel

Ascended (18864)

20-01-2014, 16:20

2 new booths have been registered, just in time!

Par anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

20-01-2014, 17:48

Updated the list!

Par ray2day

Paladin (688)

20-01-2014, 17:50

We are there!

Par BokanoiD

Rookie (27)

20-01-2014, 18:33

Looking forward to it. I'll be bringing a NMS8250 with a bust(?) disk drive for anyone who wants it (trade me for a beer or something)

Par edoz

Prophet (2443)

20-01-2014, 20:00

To bad Sunrise is not there.. because i have a broke MP3 card that needs some repair or a new one

Par AuroraMSX

Paragon (1902)

20-01-2014, 22:15

Can't make it to the fair this year -- bummer...

Par Manuel

Ascended (18864)

21-01-2014, 17:31

Bummer indeed!

Note for admins: another booth was just added.

Par edoz

Prophet (2443)

21-01-2014, 18:12

Cool!!

Par NYYRIKKI

Enlighted (5939)

21-01-2014, 20:06

First I thought I can't come. Now it seems that I could come, but there is no flights anymore... Damn...

Par Manuel

Ascended (18864)

21-01-2014, 20:48

That sucks heavily!

Par Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1782)

21-01-2014, 21:32

In typical NYYRIKKI fashion you could opt to come by rowboat?

Still, pity you can't come. Hope you can catch a flight after all!

Par marce

Supporter (14)

21-01-2014, 21:33

A multiplatform event will be held the same day in Mallorca: http://retromallorca.com

You know, better late than never? So we will be celebrating MSX's 30th anniversary (31?) near the university.

And I thought we can do some kind of event brotherhood. What do you think?

Par Manuel

Ascended (18864)

21-01-2014, 22:03

What exactly do you mean with 'event brotherhood'?

Par marce

Supporter (14)

21-01-2014, 22:07

Maybe a videoconference connection? Some chatting?

Par Manuel

Ascended (18864)

21-01-2014, 22:24

Sure, but I don't have the means to do that... but if someone is willing to help realizing that, I'd be happy to support that.

Par poke-1,170

Paragon (1769)

22-01-2014, 01:07

oh count me in dinner as well if it's not too late yet !

Par Louthrax

Prophet (2419)

22-01-2014, 10:56

NYYRIKKI wrote:

First I thought I can't come. Now it seems that I could come, but there is no flights anymore... Damn...

That's a bummer !

Par TheWhipMaster

Expert (120)

23-01-2014, 03:43

Damm it I won t be able to make it I had to reschedule my European trip for the 31st

Par Manuel

Ascended (18864)

23-01-2014, 15:37

And now also SuperSoniqs is added to the list.

Par raymond

Hero (606)

23-01-2014, 19:31

NYYRIKKI wrote:

First I thought I can't come. Now it seems that I could come, but there is no flights anymore... Damn...

If you live in Europe, you can always start driving towards Nijmegen

Par msd

Paragon (1472)

23-01-2014, 19:40

No eating after the fair?

Par edoz

Prophet (2443)

24-01-2014, 11:23

Cool that SuperSoniqs is there! They make very nice hardware Wink

About hardware : Is there someone that wants to sell a working MP3 card to me ?
(or can repair, on the fair, the one I own ?)

Par o.geerdink

Hero (587)

24-01-2014, 11:31

Be there or be commodore enthousiast

Par FiXato

Scribe (1738)

24-01-2014, 13:51

o.geerdink wrote:

Be there or be commodore enthousiast

And what is wrong with being a Commodore enthusiast? Luckily the HCC usergroups think differently: http://commodore.hcc.nl/events/commodore-msx-atari-sinclair-...

Par BokanoiD

Rookie (27)

24-01-2014, 16:31

Can I be both? Thanks.

Par meits

Scribe (6509)

24-01-2014, 20:35

I just heard I'll be there... Darn...

Par Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1782)

24-01-2014, 20:48

That makes you not a Commodore enthusiast I guess

Par syn

Prophet (2097)

24-01-2014, 20:52

Very nice last minute additions to the standholders list!! Looking forward to it already!

Btw anyone from Amsterdam area who plans on driving there and got a spot free in his/her car??

Par Grauw

Ascended (10604)

24-01-2014, 23:43

I hope people interested in audio are coming .

If anyone can bring a Bit² μ.Pack (for testing), that’d be nice!

Par NYYRIKKI

Enlighted (5939)

25-01-2014, 00:55

raymond wrote:

NYYRIKKI wrote:

First I thought I can't come. Now it seems that I could come, but there is no flights anymore... Damn...

If you live in Europe, you can always start driving towards Nijmegen

When you read this, you are propably already just as wasted that I am, you have already seen SymbOS 2.1, TriloTracker, the "MSX forever"-musicvideo about how real life prevents us from spending time with MSX... and you are just having fun... Yes: I would like to be there...

Par o.geerdink

Hero (587)

25-01-2014, 09:53

That commedore meeting is 5 km from where i live ill check it out got a c64

Par o.geerdink

Hero (587)

25-01-2014, 09:55

I brought my spare ocm to sell or trade so if anyone needs one....

Par meits

Scribe (6509)

25-01-2014, 10:26

I almost finish ed the first part of the trip... Very weird tot be on my wat tot a fair again... Last ons is about nine years Lago al ready...
Cu Guus zoon...

Par meits

Scribe (6509)

25-01-2014, 10:28

Damn Dutch spelling checker on this tablet

Par Prodatron

Paragon (1811)

25-01-2014, 18:31

Back home! That was a very nice meeting again! Thanks so much to Manuel for the organisation! I enjoyed it a lot, was great to see you all again, what a pity, that it's only once a year...

Par syn

Prophet (2097)

25-01-2014, 19:04

Still in the train on my way home, but yeah it was fun... had a good time talking with various developers and other people. See you all next year or sooner

Par Daemos

Paragon (1982)

25-01-2014, 19:31

Back home and done eating

This was a great fair. It was very nice to meet you all.

Par Grauw

Ascended (10604)

25-01-2014, 19:46

I had fun .

Par meits

Scribe (6509)

25-01-2014, 20:04

I'll edit and upload my cam's recording asap... IF it worked out fine that is

Par WORP3

Paladin (861)

25-01-2014, 21:11

It was a very great fair, thanks !

Par luppie

Paladin (864)

25-01-2014, 22:10

Nijmegen was great. Nice to see you all IRL.
Already attending my next party.

Tnx Manuel for the organization, you did a great job.

Par msd

Paragon (1472)

25-01-2014, 22:11

it was another fun day!

Par turbor

Champion (499)

25-01-2014, 22:23

Had a great time. Another great fair day, and again (as usual) way too short...

Par Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1782)

25-01-2014, 22:28

Nice to see some interesting developments and catch up with people again. Very fun day, enough stuff to do and see and also a nice bar area

Par Timmy

Master (192)

25-01-2014, 22:37

Hi! I'm new here.

Just got home from Nijmegen too. It was strange to actually hear people talking about the MSX.

During the dinner I've promised to talk about some of my C related adventures on the MSX, but I'm exhausted right now.

Next time.

Par Huey

Prophet (2687)

25-01-2014, 23:21

Had a great day today. But reading the comments here I have missed some people I'd really would have liked to talk.

Perhaps an idea to make it a bit more of a socials meeting with nametags next time?

Par Latok

msx guru (3870)

26-01-2014, 00:25

All this msx activity.... I have a good feeling about this edition!

It was nice seeing you all again and manuel, of course, thank you for everything

Par meits

Scribe (6509)

26-01-2014, 11:32

Here's about two hours of video... My SD card went full without me noticing it... Did have to change the battery somewhere in the middle though and had some serious battle with the auto-focus (which was switched off) in the first clip...

Par syn

Prophet (2097)

26-01-2014, 11:52

nice vids thanks for sharing

Par anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

26-01-2014, 12:20

It would be nice if the layout of the room wasn't roughly the same every year. One side of the room is always very quiet compared to the other side. It's not fair to the standholders there, especially the smaller ones at the back.

Anyway, we figured out why the StreetFighter 2 demonstration wasn't working. Basically a technicality that only pseudoMSX emulates correctly and both BlueMSX and openMSX get wrong, which the SF2 ROM depended on...
This is what you get when you develop on buggy emulators

Par Lord_Zett

Paladin (807)

26-01-2014, 13:02

a social meeting halfway the year is a good idea. talking bringing your msx. Or like i do and some other groups using the Bonami fair to olso meet new ppl.

Par snout

Ascended (15187)

26-01-2014, 18:17

Had a great day yesterday, although time went so quickly. Didn't even talk with half the people I wanted to talk to. There just wasn't enough time. Big thanks to Manuel for organizing yet another succesful edition of Nijmegen!

I agree with GuyveR800 on the room layout. Something completely different would be nice in 2015. Then again, all stand holders could have commented on the layout before the fair. I suppose most (if not all) of them didn't. We all have a role in this.

As for developing on buggy emulators: I wouldn't exactly call openMSX and blueMSX buggy, they get the job done in the vast majority of MSX software. The more we push MSX to its limits, the more likely bugs are to show up. But they have to show up first before they can be fixed.

I personally prefer testing on the real thing, can't wait to finally get my NoWind set up. Other than that I don't see how developers have a choice right now, seeing that pseudoMSX isn't available anywhere afaik.

Par anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

26-01-2014, 19:52

It was really great this year. Nice to talk to everyone but indeed, so little time. Synthesix is a very interesting project. The quiz by Ray & Ray was fun as always. Bought a tapedeck and some tape games. The webcam digitalisation on MSX thingie was cool. And I ended up being quite impressed with MoonSound Music Studio.

Thanks to Manuel for again organising this great event! And ofcourse to all participants and visitors.

Par anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

26-01-2014, 21:22

If it were up to me, pseudoMSX would already be enjoying a public release, but not all team members agree on its readiness.

There are two kinds of emulators bugs:
1. MSX software does not work because of an emulator bug
2. an emulator bug that causes software to appear to be working, but won't work on a real MSX

In the early days of emulators (not just MSX, but other systems as well), the second was a huge problem, because developers would release software that would not work on the real hardware. And emulators would continue to be wrong because that software should run on it, right?!

Eventually most emulator authors wised up and started emulating the correct hardware behaviour, causing some software that never worked on real hardware to start failing on their emulators too.

So "the amount of software that works on an emulator" is a really poor measure of emulator quality. It is always the software that DOESN'T WORK on real hardware that is the true test of an emulator's quality.

In other words, making stuff work is easy, but making stuff fail accurately is hard.

Par hap

Paragon (2040)

26-01-2014, 21:29

GuyveR800 is completely right, There's no need to 'defend' emulation regarding this.

Par luppie

Paladin (864)

31-01-2014, 22:07

Where is the Photoshoot link It's almost a week ago that the Fair was in Nijmegen

(I have to admit, I took my camera with me, but the Fair was so good, that I forgot to use my camera)

Par snout

Ascended (15187)

31-01-2014, 22:12

@luppie - I completely forgot as well, but received some pictures from turboR earlier today (thanks!). Manuel, I saw you taking pictures as well. Would you like to send them so that I can make a best-of-both-worlds photoshoot?

btw, still have to publish that TYME photoshoot as well. Waiting for a batch of pictures for that one as well...

Par JohnHassink

Ambassador (5605)

01-02-2014, 05:46

Almost forgot, but I found a medal from the quiz on the parking lot. Any quiz winner that is missing his medal? I have it.

Par meits

Scribe (6509)

01-02-2014, 12:03

Does it say whice price it is? I got them lucky bastards on tape ...

Ehr, you all do

Par Manuel

Ascended (18864)

01-02-2014, 17:06

snout, I can send them tomorrow evening, preferably via IRC. So when I see you I'll send the stuff on IRC.

Par MSXArnhem

Expert (82)

03-02-2014, 15:03

I crossed the 'oversteek' (the new bridge north of Nijmegen) and visited the MSX fair as well. It was vey nice seeing so many MSX computer and all these people still enjoying their hobby.

I especially want to thank Raymond (Ray2day - we did not introduce ourselves, but I recognized him from the photo on his website) for demonstrating the Megaflashrom with SD. I'm realy going to order one of these on short notice....

Par Grauw

Ascended (10604)

03-02-2014, 15:57

I ordered one . The extra PSG in it is kinda cool too.

Par meits

Scribe (6509)

04-02-2014, 13:02

Got it... Never tried the extra PSG

Par luppie

Paladin (864)

14-02-2014, 23:21

http://www.msx.org/photoshoots/gallery/nijmegen-2014