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Van gdx

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06-02-2022, 02:12

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you transform the normal registers from blocks 1 to 3 in 'extra' registers

No.

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they are converted into a file by both emulators

Emulators save all registers on file is not.

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Actually, it's the same registers but with a different number

What ??? Different number = different register, so extra register.

Van mars2000you

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06-02-2022, 02:09

Then, 'extra' does not mean the same thing for you and me

I explain why in my complete text (part beginning with "Actually"):

"you transform the normal registers from blocks 1 to 3 in 'extra' registers when they are converted into a file by both emulators. Actually, it's the same registers but with a different number, because the emulators don't generate 4 files, one for each block, but only 1 file."

Van mars2000you

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06-02-2022, 02:18

I will simply remove this section, as the discussion leads to ignore this part of my answer:

"the emulators don't generate 4 files, one for each block, but only 1 file."

Van gdx

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06-02-2022, 02:24

The first column is for blocks.
The second is for real RTC (and emulated RTC of course). Where do you see I transformed registers here?
The third is for the registers "with different numbers" on OpenMSX.
The fourth is for the registers "with different numbers" on BlueMSX".

Explain where the problem is! I just want to understand. Removing this doesn't solve the problem.

Van mars2000you

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06-02-2022, 02:29

I have explained, but you give another meaning to the word 'extra', just because there are not 4 files, one for each block. The only extra data are in the blueMSX file.

'Extra' for me = 'does not have a corresponding RTC register".

I prefer to have this section removed than having a text confusing two kinds of 'extra' things, according your criteria.

Van gdx

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06-02-2022, 02:44

I used "extra" instead of "additional" just to make it shorter in the table. Meaning intersects.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/extra

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The only extra data are in the blueMSX file.

I don't think the emulators' method of handling these exotic registers is a determining factor in the explanation.

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I prefer to have this section removed than having a text confusing two kinds of 'extra' things, according your criteria

My criter is to explain as clearly as possible (but I do not claim to be the clearest).

Van mars2000you

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06-02-2022, 02:48

You should at least precede the table with a text explaining that the emulators don't generate 4 files, one for each block, but only 1 file, what provokes the renumeration of the registers from blocks 1 to 3.

I suggest also to put after the table all the explanations about the blueMSX 'exotic' registers.

Van Manuel

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06-02-2022, 11:14

I think you should ask Daniel Vik to explain the extra bytes in the file, as I can't find any source code that writes extra data to it.

Van Takamichi

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12-02-2022, 16:22

Kana key mapping is switchable on all Japanese MSXs using POKE &HFCAD,n. If n=0 it's set to 50on (CF-3000 here) while if n=1 to 255 it's set to JIS (HB-F1XD, HB-F1XDmk2, HB-F1XDJ, HB-F1XV/Panasonic MSX2+ (except FS-A1FX) and MSX Turbo R here). Former might be intuitive when using a keyboard without kana printed on it because you can alphabetically guess 1 = a, 2 = i, 3 = u and so on. Latter is very useful when typing with modern Japanese physical keyboard which is almost universally JIS.

Where can I place this information? The concepts are like 50on = ABCDEF and JIS = QWERTY. Note modern touch keyboards usually can be arranged to 50on.

Van mars2000you

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12-02-2022, 16:34

I think it can be added as note on the page you mention (after the info about row 11 and before all the matrices), but maybe gdx will have another idea.

A question: does this poke work also on the National FS-4500, FS-4600F, FS-4700, FS-5000F2, FS-5500F1 and FS-5500F2, which have hardware switches to change the kana key mapping?

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