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Van sdsnatcher73

Prophet (3519)

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11-06-2022, 18:21

It happens now and again. The problem is we can’t always express ourselves completely in words and those words end up being interpreted differently. In this case what is on the wiki (at this moment) is clear. It’s possible an H version existed, but there is no real proof. Until further information does arise this is in my opinion a good representation of the present knowledge.

Van gdx

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12-06-2022, 02:40

There is an extract from the interview of the Victor • JVC MSX 35th Anniversery Story about the HC-95 of which here.

Quote:

M:ターボモードを使うと付属ソフトでの作業が快適だという話は聞いたことがあります。ゲームだと動かないのも多いようですが。ある地方テレビ局は21世紀に入ってからもかなり後年までテロップとかに使っていたとか。

V:小さなケーブルテレビ局なんかだと結構長く使っていた可能性はあります。安いし、操作にも慣れているからいちいち変えたくないということで。

M:個人ユーザーだけでなく、業務用途まで含めて長く愛されたパソコンだったわけですね。

Translation:
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"MSX Association: I heard that using turbo mode makes it easier to work with the bundled software, but many games don't work. Some local television stations used telops until a few years into the 21st century.

Victor: It's possible that a small cable TV channel for a long time. It was cheap and they used to use it so didn't want to change it.

MSX Association: It was a popular personal computer not only for individual users, but also for business purposes."
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There is nothing conclusive in the interview. Only one thing is certain, it is that the HC-90/HC-95 was used in small TV studios (just like the HB-F900 but more interesting thanks to the Z180 and its explanability). So the HC-95(H) model remains very hypothetical. For me, it is possible that it existed but it can only be with an HDD interface and an (optional?) external hard drive since only the HC-90 could accommodate an internal hard drive instead of the second floppy disk drive.

In short, if the HDD is built-in, the HC-95(H) is unlikely to have existed, it would rather be the HC-90(H) only. If the HDD was external, it seems strange to me that Victor made an HC-90/95(H) instead of just selling the interface separately. In this way, it would probably have been a success, yet we have no trace. Victor did not see the potential hit. So only the HC-90(H) is probable but not especially for cable TV. The article only says that at the time the Japanese cable TV channels (CATV) were local so they had a small budget. The HC-90/HC-95 was often used because relatively cheap. Victor would have simply produced the HC-90 (H) for this reason.

Shamuneko is a telop development software for all HC-90/95 that is equivalent to what Sony did. I don't see why you are talking about it.

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BC-xx is “Business Computer”

He probably pulled that out from his hat.

Van mars2000you

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12-06-2022, 02:07

The Japanese guy indeed mentions only HC-90(H), and of course the HDD must find an internal location .... So I will change the HC-95 page.

Van gdx

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12-06-2022, 02:15

You should also indicate more details about CATV because currently, it is difficult to make the link with them.

Van mars2000you

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12-06-2022, 02:19

I will add some of your sentences about CATV. For me, living in Belgium, cable TV (and later teletext) is a concept easy to understand as Belgium was pioneer on this matter in Europe, but I know it was not the case of France for example.

Van gdx

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12-06-2022, 02:34

What I mean is that the HC-90 (H) and the other models have no direct link with cable TV. It is just at that time, they were used a lot by local channels which were often streamed by the cable.

Van T.R.

Resident (45)

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12-06-2022, 15:24

I don't understand the process here. After all the discussion, the latest version of the text still states the existence of this computer as a fact, even though no one has been able to prove it. The stuff about cable TV makes no sense and will only confuse readers. But given the earlier reactions I am very hesitant to touch the wiki again.

Van Manuel

Ascended (18939)

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13-06-2022, 07:45

In the HC-90 article I saw this:

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On the two last versions, the color enhancement switch is replaced by a through switch, allowing to make transparent useless part of a picture.

I don't understand what it means. Can someone please explain?

Van mars2000you

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13-06-2022, 10:26

It's a way to make invisible some parts of a picture. For example, you can "remove" an item or detail that you find useless for the modified picture.

Van gdx

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13-06-2022, 10:08

What about the Search switch?

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