MSXdev22 #10 Mine Finder

Van MsxKun

Paragon (1100)

15-05-2022, 11:06

Well, there was already some minesweeper for MSX, so not missing.

Van JohnHassink

Ambassador (5604)

15-05-2022, 11:27

MsxKun wrote:

Well, there was already some minesweeper for MSX, so not missing.

Never seen it. Do you remember what it was called?

Van tfh

Prophet (3177)

15-05-2022, 11:33

JohnHassink wrote:

MsxKun wrote:

Well, there was already some minesweeper for MSX, so not missing.

Never seen it. Do you remember what it was called?

Isn't there a minesweeper in SymbOS?
But still... This one is a lot easier to run. And time goes by pretty fast!

Van Manuel

Ascended (18783)

15-05-2022, 11:43

https://www.generation-msx.nl/software/icon-games/minesx/rel...
http://marmsx.msxall.com/cursos/jogos/mines/english.php
http://msx2.org/Passion%20MSX%20(2009-10-04)/MSX%20Games%20BOX%20(2007-03-01)/Sections/topgames/homebrew/games/classic-minesweeper.php.htm
https://www.msx.org/downloads/games/puzzle/minesweeper

Sorry, couldn't resist...

Van Uninteresting

Champion (283)

15-05-2022, 11:40

A (mostly) solid implementation of Minesweeper.
I spotted a minor bug in my first game, though. After clicking an empty tile to reveal all the connected 0-neighbor squares, one 1-neighbor cell bordering on the 0-nb region was not revealed.

XXX
2X1
101

Here X is unknown and 0-2 are the number of mine neighbors. The 0 was properly uncovered, but the middle X was not. If it matters, the XXX were on the topmost row.

I have the full board when I noticed this in a screenshot, if the author would like it.

Second, please don't get me wrong, but this year's MSXdev constraints (no constraints) would've been a great excuse to learn how to support the MSX mouse, especially for a game like this (last years's Klondike and Shanghai solitaires would've been even better). (Even I might've tried doing that!)

The game play perfectly well on keyboard as well, though, so that's just me nitpicking.

Van JohnHassink

Ambassador (5604)

15-05-2022, 15:04

Okay, guys, so I was the one who basically wrote this newspost.
It seems that I was very mistaken about there not being any "Minesweeper" variant on MSX yet.
I'm really sorry about that. I honestly did not know about these.
I'm unsure on the course of action to take right now. Should I edit this post, or just leave it like this?

Van Manuel

Ascended (18783)

15-05-2022, 15:58

No problem at all John! In any case, we have a nice announcement and all things that are not accurate have been set straight, so whatever Thanks for taking the time to make it.

Van tfh

Prophet (3177)

15-05-2022, 16:44

JohnHassink wrote:

Okay, guys, so I was the one who basically wrote this newspost.
It seems that I was very mistaken about there not being any "Minesweeper" variant on MSX yet.
I'm really sorry about that. I honestly did not know about these.
I'm unsure on the course of action to take right now. Should I edit this post, or just leave it like this?

Just leave it like it is.
It's comforting for us to see that you are also only human ;-)

Van Manuel

Ascended (18783)

15-05-2022, 17:56

Also, it made me add the missing games to gen MSX

Van Uninteresting

Champion (283)

15-05-2022, 19:55

I'm also feeling better for hearing it's not that big or unique a mistake for me not to know other games akin to my entry.

Van tfh

Prophet (3177)

15-05-2022, 20:29

It seems that John has done the community a big favor ;-)

Van MsxKun

Paragon (1100)

15-05-2022, 20:47

JohnHassink wrote:

Okay, guys, so I was the one who basically wrote this newspost.
It seems that I was very mistaken about there not being any "Minesweeper" variant on MSX yet.
I'm really sorry about that. I honestly did not know about these.
I'm unsure on the course of action to take right now. Should I edit this post, or just leave it like this?

John, It's not a problem!
BUT... you should make less musics and play more!! NOOOO! WAIT! Kidding! Nobody can be everywhere everytime at once (except the goddess Michelle Yeoh in the new movie, it seems), so no need to feel sorry.

Van JohnHassink

Ambassador (5604)

15-05-2022, 21:04

Thanks for the understanding and the comforting words, people.
I hope you will enjoy the effort that mister Pugno did. And I hope not to be out of line as an MSXdev organizer to say that I think it's a very cool rendition.
(to be fair, I suck epically at Minesweeper)

Van gdx

Enlighted (5491)

16-05-2022, 10:34

There must be six or seven Mineweeper games on MSX. Mine Finder is a nice version.

I just found another: MSX Minesweeper by MarMSX.

Quote:

http://msx2.org/Passion%20MSX%20%282009-10-04%29/MSX%20Games%20BOX%20%282007-03-01%29/Sections/topgames/homebrew/games/classic-minesweeper.php.htm

Yes that:
https://www.generation-msx.nl/software/o-benneker/minesweepe...

Van pitpan

Prophet (3152)

16-05-2022, 19:10

I had a lot of fun coding the opensource version, Karoshi's Classic Minesweeper (RKOS02). Code is still available at the mirror of the Karohi Forum. You can also get the source code for a Pong clone, G-Monkey (the MSX implementation of the old MS Qbasic Gorilla game) and Goban (a simple, two player go game board with all the rules working and infinite undo movements feature). I miss all the fun!

Van riquet

Master (187)

22-05-2022, 10:26

This Minesweeper by Paolo Fabrizio Pugno is a real success with pleasant sound effects.
Congrats.

Van Juanmi

Master (138)

29-05-2022, 19:31

Two other minesweeper games that could be added to generation msx:

Ah! Soukai and Ah! Soukai II

Van pizzapower

Expert (71)

08-06-2022, 00:36

We have just created a new version here too https://github.com/ArqueologiaDigital/Mines :P

Van ppugno

Supporter (4)

12-06-2022, 22:33

Hi, I am the author of Mine Finder. I understand from your message that there might be a bug in the automatic tile uncovering. If there's an empty tile (the '0') then all surrounding cells should be uncovered. Will try to find out what could be happening. Thanks for the heads-up.

About mouse support, I do not understand your statement. The game does indeed support a mouse (in both ports) and was developed having a mouse as its primary control. Can you please clarify? I am not sure I got it right. Thanks!

Van ppugno

Supporter (4)

13-06-2022, 00:55

Uninteresting wrote:

A (mostly) solid implementation of Minesweeper.
I spotted a minor bug in my first game, though. After clicking an empty tile to reveal all the connected 0-neighbor squares, one 1-neighbor cell bordering on the 0-nb region was not revealed.

XXX
2X1
101

Here X is unknown and 0-2 are the number of mine neighbors. The 0 was properly uncovered, but the middle X was not. If it matters, the XXX were on the topmost row.

I have the full board when I noticed this in a screenshot, if the author would like it.

Second, please don't get me wrong, but this year's MSXdev constraints (no constraints) would've been a great excuse to learn how to support the MSX mouse, especially for a game like this (last years's Klondike and Shanghai solitaires would've been even better). (Even I might've tried doing that!)

The game play perfectly well on keyboard as well, though, so that's just me nitpicking.

Hi, thanks! I just corrected that little bug and now the game area should be cleared without missing empty cells. Thanks for your help. I will send the updated version (1.2) to MSXDEV.

By the way, please check about my comment above regarding mouse. The game was designed to be used primarily with a mouse (but also supports keyboard and joystick).

Thanks again,
Paolo

Van Uninteresting

Champion (283)

13-06-2022, 17:09

@ppugno I'm sorry, I hadn't tried a mouse. I saw no mention of it on the MSXdev page, didn't download the game package to see if the documentation mentioned the mouse, and the game didn't mention the mouse as I played it on tfh's site, so I assumed it didn't support the mouse. If it did support mouse already, great! Please ignore my earlier comment borne out of ignorance.

Van ppugno

Supporter (4)

16-06-2022, 19:01

Uninteresting wrote:

@ppugno I'm sorry, I hadn't tried a mouse. I saw no mention of it on the MSXdev page, didn't download the game package to see if the documentation mentioned the mouse, and the game didn't mention the mouse as I played it on tfh's site, so I assumed it didn't support the mouse. If it did support mouse already, great! Please ignore my earlier comment borne out of ignorance.

OK! If you have a mouse, try it. I guarantee it's way more fun to play with it.
I already sent the updated version to MSXDEV, they should replace it soon.
Cheers!

Van ro

Scribe (4698)

24-06-2022, 21:18

version 1.2 has been published at dev and tfh

Van ppugno

Supporter (4)

25-06-2022, 23:10

ro wrote:

version 1.2 has been published at dev and tfh

yes, it addresses the bug mentioned above, where in some specific cases a few cells would not be automatically opened during the "auto-clearing". Enjoy!

Paolo

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